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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: sls [marsha7] by circlew
Jul 23, 2008 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 23, 2008 8:00 am)

so Caddy and Town Car had no competition for some time...not any more...
 
and never again.
 
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OW
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Re: sls [marsha7] by sls002
Jul 23, 2008 (8:13 am)
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The 8-6-4 was the same engine as the previous years engine. The basic problem with the 8-6-4 was that it required a lot of mantinence to keep the variable displacement working. The Mercedes 600 required a lot of mantinence to keep it working too. So again you seem obsessed.
 
Never heard of the original V6, what exactly is an original V6?
 
You have a valid point on the Vega engine. However, the Vega is not the whole of GM. The problem there was the aluminum used in the engine.
 
The problems you are ranting about seem to be from the 70's and early 80's, about 30 years ago. What about Toyota's sludge problems? What about the 4 cylinder engines that Honda built that need new heads after warranty is over (my brother had one - $3000+ to fix).
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8-6-4 information by sls002
Jul 23, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Re: sls [circlew] by lemko
Jul 23, 2008 (8:48 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 23, 2008 8:13 am)

The Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Ford Crown Victoria still have no competitors. Nobody else builds an affordable large body-on-frame car these days. To get something even remotely similar from the Europeans or Japanese, you'd have to spend over $60K+
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Re: sls [lemko] by sls002
Jul 23, 2008 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 8:48 am)

While you are right, I am not sure that what is basic 50's design (body on frame) is something good.
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Re: sls [lemko] by nwng
Jul 23, 2008 (10:22 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 8:48 am)

I don't think you can buy any body-on-frame cars except from ford. But it's kind of saying you can only buy instant cameras from polariod.
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I've changed my mind..... by nvbanker
Jul 23, 2008 (10:23 am)
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I thought Cadillac was well on its way back at one time, but time has proven that they really only have one great car that sells well, that's the CTS. Their Town Car (DTS) is still their main profit-monger and it's basically your father's Cadillac, the STS doesn't sell because you can't tell it from a CTS and nobody wants to pay twice the money for zero recognition over the base model.
 
No, they are no where near becoming the standard again.....not at this time.
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Re: sls [lemko] by circlew
Jul 23, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 8:48 am)

The Lincoln Town Car, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Ford Crown Victoria still have no competitors.
 
I wonder why anyone would want to compete with these! Please!
 
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OW
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Re: I've changed my mind..... [nvbanker] by lemko
Jul 23, 2008 (11:41 am)
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Replying to: nvbanker (Jul 23, 2008 10:23 am)

Well, if the DTS is my Pop's Cadillac, he did have some pretty hot cars back in the day. I just got back from vacation and took my DTS with me and I couldn't be happier with the car. It does have a lot of guts out there on the turnpike and interstate. I just love that muscular exhaust note and extremely smooth ride. If you don't watch it, you'll be doing over 100 mph and not even aware of it the ride and the shifting is so silky smooth!
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Re: I've changed my mind..... [lemko] by nvbanker
Jul 23, 2008 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 11:41 am)

I didn't say it was bad, Lemko, just not groundbreaking.... Of all the Cadillac models, the DTS is my personal favorite as well.

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