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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 23, 2008 7:28 am) DETROIT - Toyota beat General Motors in worldwide sales in the first half of the year. Toyota Motor Corp. said Wednesday it sold 4.8 million vehicles between January and June, up 2 percent from the same period a year ago. General Motors Corp. says it sold 4.5 million vehicles in the same period, or about 300,000 less than Toyota. Not in sales anymore. Link below. The slide is only to grow. link title Regards, OW |
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| I don't have an obsession with the V8-6-4, but it is simply one of many GM products that makes one wonder if they ever tested it before producing it...along with the Vega engine, their orginal V6 engines where they removed the connecting rod nut and simply screwed the bolt inot the cast iron of the connecting rod, which caused the connecting rods to come apart and literally destroy the engine/crankshaft from within...maybe they should have known that a hardened steel bolt would not stay "torqued" when screwed into soft cast iron...it is stupid things like that that makes one wonder what is happening in the GM design department...ancient past???...maybe, but it set off a string of (IMO) junky cars that lasted decades...now, all of a sudden, we are to take GM at their word that they make our cars carefully???...have you ever heard about the boy who cried "Wolf"...that is GM today...they must earn our trust since they betrayed and violated it so much in the past, and now we have competitive alternate products to buy (Honda/Toyota) whereas in the 70s and 80s we did not, and the Japanese luxury divisions really did not gain steam until the Mid-90s, so Caddy and Town Car had no competition for some time...not any more... | |
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 23, 2008 8:00 am) and never again. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 23, 2008 8:00 am) Never heard of the original V6, what exactly is an original V6? You have a valid point on the Vega engine. However, the Vega is not the whole of GM. The problem there was the aluminum used in the engine. The problems you are ranting about seem to be from the 70's and early 80's, about 30 years ago. What about Toyota's sludge problems? What about the 4 cylinder engines that Honda built that need new heads after warranty is over (my brother had one - $3000+ to fix). |
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 23, 2008 8:13 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 8:48 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 8:48 am) |
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I thought Cadillac was well on its way back at one time, but time has proven that they really only have one great car that sells well, that's the CTS. Their Town Car (DTS) is still their main profit-monger and it's basically your father's Cadillac, the STS doesn't sell because you can't tell it from a CTS and nobody wants to pay twice the money for zero recognition over the base model. No, they are no where near becoming the standard again.....not at this time.
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 23, 2008 8:48 am) I wonder why anyone would want to compete with these! Please! Regards, OW |
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