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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 3:38 pm)  22 mpg. I would have loved that car with a 425/425 V-8. Tune the suspension and you could have charged $40K back then! Waiting lists would have developed. The car rode fantastic. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: tlong (Jul 21, 2008 8:03 pm) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 21, 2008 9:01 pm) it just reinforces that decades-old perception that Detroit just doesn't get it--and never will get it... Say what you will but I have a whole different feeing walking through a BMW dealer than a Caddy dealer. There is some real performing and luxurious steel on those floors. I know you can e-buy a car these days faster than buying a $5 gallon of milk but you can't replace the feeling of touching a fine automobile. GM doesn't have that anymore. Except with the Corvette! It's the only car brand that has been developed successfully from the last century by "The Biggest Car Company of ALL Time".  Regards, OW |
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 22, 2008 2:38 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 22, 2008 6:29 am) |
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 22, 2008 6:29 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jul 22, 2008 7:36 am) |
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 22, 2008 7:54 am) Probably not with the 535i. The weight difference alone out classes the STS with respect to handling performance and the resale value crushes the STS. At the end of ownership, price difference is nil. Just MHO. Regards, OW
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 22, 2008 7:54 am) The last time I saw an STS interior, which I admit was on an early model, I wasn't impressed, either. It seemed kind of plain, but not in that "hard luxury" old Germany way.
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When I said "Yuppies" I was really only referring to that age segment of those born in a certain time span, basically calling them a "generation"...no offense was intended in terms of their education, buying habits, attitudes, etc...just referring to a generation...sorry if I caused any emotional upset...   From the article: "They are certainly the best vehicles Detroit has ever built. Yet--as we all know--Detroit automakers have been fighting tough battle of "perception." Despite the overall goodness of what they are now selling, they have been battling a decades-old image problem of building crummy cars and trucks. Hey, this this a problem they created; no question about it." That is also the catch phrase "...best vehicles Detroit has ever built"...it was what was built over the last decades that causes skepticism of their products...the "image problem" of building crummy cars has been well earned...sure, some of the posters have kept their Big 3 creampuffs for decades, over 200K miles, and I am happy for you... But I believe it is undeniable that many folks, over the years, have been burned by a Big 3 car and have sought their transportation elsewhere and have apparently been happier with the import... Honda and Toy did not grow by accident, or people putting guns to the buyers to force them to buy Accords and Camrys...they grew because the buyers did not believe that American carmakers either built the right product or built the right product but poorly... Blame the union, blame GM management (V8-6-4???), blame no-caring dealers, but American buyers have deserted Big 3 products in droves, and they MUST have a reason, I doubt it was by reading Tarot cards... GM and Ford have a serious image problem, and the image is one of poor quality...they earned it and now must convince buyers that their product is not just competitive, but better... To tell me you are as good as Honda means Honda must be a good standard...whether I believe you or not is another story... I am one of those "Yuppies" (age designation) that, while I own Big 3 cars, still believe thatthey do not compare to my Hondas... I would LOVE to post here and tell you that the new Ford or Buick or Caddy I will buy "blew away my Hondas in quality"... I may not be a fan of the union (to put it mildly) but I want American cars to win...the big question is, do the American carmakers want to win on better quality or just snow us with an ad campaign that says "Buy American"...they must earn the business and I hope they do...
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