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Replying to: circlew (Jul 21, 2008 9:14 am) At one time in the 70's I thought that the Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty Special was something I would like. When I was looking at trading in my 71 Riviera, I drove a used 73 Fleetwood for a short test drive. It took about two blocks to see that it was an oversized car. I really liked my 86 Buick because it was smaller. The problem I see with picking a "Standard of the World" today is that there are too many very good choices. If the "Standard of the World" is supposed to be the car that most people would choose if they could pick out any car they wanted, price of no consideration, then I think that there would be several cars on the list, none of them with 50% of the total. Personally, if there were a BMW dealer within a 100 miles, instead of more than 300 miles away, I would probably own a BMW wagon, probably a certified used 5 series. Still the SRX is a good choice for me, not too big and heavy, but burns more fuel than I would like. If the winters are shifting back to more snow then I probably have the right vehicle.
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 21, 2008 9:58 am) Enjoy the SRX. Winter is coming soon! BTW, I saw some really nice pricing on late model A-8's yesterday. Very interesting. Regards, OW |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 20, 2008 9:41 am) We still have a fleet of four GM cars: 1988 Buick Park Avenue, 1989 Cadillac Brougham, 2005 Buick LaCrosse, and 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance. I'm 43 and my girlfriend is a year younger. We'd have been those hypothetical kids and teenagers back in the 1970s and 1980s. Funny how we still buy GM cars.
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 20, 2008 1:34 pm) Not everybody who is 40-60 years-old is a yuppie. To be called a yuppie was an insult where I came from and certainly something I didn't aspire to be. A yuppie wouldn't have bought a Cadillac or Lincoln even if they were the best vehicles ever built. Cadillacs and Lincolns were their parents' cars and represented the so-called "Establishment" and they were out to rebel against said establishment by purchasing foreign luxury vehicles when they had the ability to afford one. They could care less if that BMW was unreliable and expensive to service and repair. They were more interested in a trendy brand name more than anything else. I also can't think of anybody who grew up to be a yuppie who drove a Chevrolet, Ford, or Plymouth in their teen years. They were more likely to drive VWs or some other Japanese or European facsimile. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 21, 2008 5:03 am) I also don't believe the story about the 1988 Brougham with the bad brakes and gaskets. My 1989 Cadillac Brougham is mechanically identical to a 1988 Brougham and I have never experienced any major mechanical maladies with the car, let alone ones as severe as the ones he described. If you're going to make stuff up, be sure there are no other posters who have those kinds of cars who can call shenanigans on you. |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 11:09 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 10:43 am) Regards, OW |
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 11:09 am) Oh well, you are a real GM guy! That's for sure. By the way, my German Shepard beat the 1984 FWB for 100 feet of the line. No big deal because almost anything that could breath could blow that thing into the weeds. Nice ride, though!! Regards, OW
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COOTER: I have no thoughts on that in Mississippi except to wonder why... When I saw this (I can't remember where) I was disappointed. As an American, I'd like to think we are up to ANY challenge, ala WW2. I don't believe that they have to be union (or not) to build a quality product, I just believe it helps to stick together to make sure you aren't taken advantage of. I don't agree with banding together to "Stick it to the man", but I also think that we have an obligation to stand up for ourselves when we feel wronged, as well as stand behind others we see wronged. |
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 21, 2008 9:50 am) We know for example that GM's gross sales were about $180 billion in 2007 and sales were about 4 million. that averages out to $45,000 per vehicle. but probably need to account for world wide sales. In 2006 sales were 207 billion on 9.1 million vehicles world wide = $22,800 per vehicle. So the minimum price tag should be $25,000 One of the long term problems that GM has had is how to make profits off the small cars. They have never been able to see them as anything but cheap cars to sell at no profit. I think that this has been an accounting problem of sorts. I think one thing they wanted out of the Saturn investment was accounting that would show a profit.
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