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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: My experience is different [sls002] by circlew
Jul 21, 2008 (9:14 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 21, 2008 6:30 am)

I would like to know what car you consider to be the present world standard and why.

 
World Class to me is Bentley and Rolls. Not Caddy.
 

 

 

 
You can SEE why.
 
Regards,
OW
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Would'nt you know... by circlew
Jul 21, 2008 (9:50 am)
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when you were getting hosed?
 
Before gas hit $4 a gallon, General Motors relied on large trucks and SUVs for most of its profits. In fact, one GM exec once told Leftlane that it only costs about $6,000 to $7,000 more to produce a Cadillac Escalade than it does to produce a Chevrolet Malibu – resulting in an incredible $30,000+ profit difference! However, the good times are over for GM and the auto giant is now looking to its small cars for big profits.
 
I guess the cat's out of the bag! Imagine if they would have invested some of those killings that in world-class design and parts? Who knows? Could have been a contender.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: My experience is different [circlew] by sls002
Jul 21, 2008 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 21, 2008 9:14 am)

While I agree that from the luxury point of view Rolls and Bentley are very good, to my thinking they are oversized and not cars that I would buy if money were not a consideration.
 
At one time in the 70's I thought that the Cadillac Fleetwood Sixty Special was something I would like. When I was looking at trading in my 71 Riviera, I drove a used 73 Fleetwood for a short test drive. It took about two blocks to see that it was an oversized car. I really liked my 86 Buick because it was smaller.
 
The problem I see with picking a "Standard of the World" today is that there are too many very good choices. If the "Standard of the World" is supposed to be the car that most people would choose if they could pick out any car they wanted, price of no consideration, then I think that there would be several cars on the list, none of them with 50% of the total.
 
Personally, if there were a BMW dealer within a 100 miles, instead of more than 300 miles away, I would probably own a BMW wagon, probably a certified used 5 series. Still the SRX is a good choice for me, not too big and heavy, but burns more fuel than I would like. If the winters are shifting back to more snow then I probably have the right vehicle.
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Re: My experience is different [sls002] by circlew
Jul 21, 2008 (10:09 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 21, 2008 9:58 am)

Sometimes, only a few will want or choose to own the world standard. I agree there are many great cars and why I leased a 330xi.
 
Enjoy the SRX. Winter is coming soon!
 
BTW, I saw some really nice pricing on late model A-8's yesterday. Very interesting.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: My experience is different [cooterbfd] by lemko
Jul 21, 2008 (10:43 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 20, 2008 9:41 am)

Wow, a lot of lucky people! I had a 1968 Buick Special Deluxe, 1975 Cadillac Sedan DeVille, 1979 Buick Park Avenue, 1979 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency, 1987 Chevrolet Caprice Classic, 1988 Buick Park Avenue, 1989 Cadillac Brougham, 1994 Cadillac DeVille, 2002 Cadillac Seville STS, and a 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance.
 
We still have a fleet of four GM cars: 1988 Buick Park Avenue, 1989 Cadillac Brougham, 2005 Buick LaCrosse, and 2007 Cadillac DTS Performance. I'm 43 and my girlfriend is a year younger. We'd have been those hypothetical kids and teenagers back in the 1970s and 1980s. Funny how we still buy GM cars.
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Re: cooter and sls [marsha7] by lemko
Jul 21, 2008 (10:58 am)
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Replying to: marsha7 (Jul 20, 2008 1:34 pm)

....the Yuppies from (loosely) 40-60 are DEFINITELY not tied to Big 3 cars and have zero brand loyalty to GM or Ford
 
Not everybody who is 40-60 years-old is a yuppie. To be called a yuppie was an insult where I came from and certainly something I didn't aspire to be. A yuppie wouldn't have bought a Cadillac or Lincoln even if they were the best vehicles ever built. Cadillacs and Lincolns were their parents' cars and represented the so-called "Establishment" and they were out to rebel against said establishment by purchasing foreign luxury vehicles when they had the ability to afford one. They could care less if that BMW was unreliable and expensive to service and repair. They were more interested in a trendy brand name more than anything else. I also can't think of anybody who grew up to be a yuppie who drove a Chevrolet, Ford, or Plymouth in their teen years. They were more likely to drive VWs or some other Japanese or European facsimile.
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Re: My experience is different [62vetteefp] by lemko
Jul 21, 2008 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 21, 2008 5:03 am)

I think that link is fake too...unless the guy was from New England and never washed his car since day one and let all this road salt accumulate on his car during the winter. During the summer, he parked the car on the beach and let the tide come in and flood the car. Oh, that and he spilled battery acid all over the car and had a nasty habit of leaving and spilling bottles of Pepsi all over the finish.
 
I also don't believe the story about the 1988 Brougham with the bad brakes and gaskets. My 1989 Cadillac Brougham is mechanically identical to a 1988 Brougham and I have never experienced any major mechanical maladies with the car, let alone ones as severe as the ones he described.
 
If you're going to make stuff up, be sure there are no other posters who have those kinds of cars who can call shenanigans on you.
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Re: My experience is different [lemko] by fintail
Jul 21, 2008 (11:21 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 11:09 am)

I think if every GM owner cared for their cars like you do, GM would be in better shape today
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Re: My experience is different [lemko] by circlew
Jul 21, 2008 (12:15 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 10:43 am)

That is pretty funny!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: My experience is different [lemko] by circlew
Jul 21, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 21, 2008 11:09 am)

Wow, pretty touchy when the truth comes out. I must have imagined my brother taking off the entire top of the engine and changing the passenger side head gasket.
 
Oh well, you are a real GM guy! That's for sure.
 
By the way, my German Shepard beat the 1984 FWB for 100 feet of the line. No big deal because almost anything that could breath could blow that thing into the weeds. Nice ride, though!!
 
Regards,
OW

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