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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Well... [circlew] by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2008 (4:39 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 16, 2008 4:02 am)

https://www.alg.com/depratings
 
My link I listed earlier did not seem to work. anyway, all the below 2006 vehicles are 3 stars:
 
Cadillac CTS Escalade
Mercedes Benz C Class Clk Class Cls Class M Class R Class SL Class
Acura RDX RL
Audi A3 A6 Q7
BMW X3 Series X5 Series
Lexus ES350 GS350/430 LS460 LX470
 
Looks to me like the data shows that the 2006 CTS is right in there with everyone of its competitors except the BMW 3 series and Acura TL which are 5 star and the 4 star BMW 5 series. So I guess we could say the 2006 CTS did not perform well in your reality but hangs out with some good company in the actual US everyone else lives in.
 
ALG is pleased to announce the release of the ALG™ Depreciation Ratings. Based on 2006 model year vehicles, the 1 through 5 star ALG ratings provide consumers with an accurate and convenient method to determine the amount of depreciation a vehicle will experience over the lifetime of ownership. ALG Depreciation Ratings will be featured on Edmunds.com.
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Re: Well... [laurasdada] by lemko
Jul 16, 2008 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 15, 2008 8:12 pm)

I drove a 2005 CTS and it wasn't a bad car. Really, the materials used in the car are nicer than they appear and it was a fun little ride and economical too. However, the new CTS is so awesome, the old one comes on like a plate spinner who appears on the Ed Sullivan Show after the Beatles.
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Re: Well... [laurasdada] by sls002
Jul 16, 2008 (5:55 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 15, 2008 8:12 pm)

I assume that the 1G is supposed to be the trim level
The STS has a 1SG trim level (top performance package)
The CTS has been available as the 1SA and 1SB only in the past I think. Certainly never went past a 1SC. However, the plastic interior was not ugly in my opinion, only rather plain looking, and while the plastic finish may have be expensive, the look was cheap. The door panels were perhaps too simple and an expanse of mostly hard plastic. The new interior is probably much better, but I have not seen one.
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Re: Well... [62vetteefp] by sls002
Jul 16, 2008 (5:58 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 16, 2008 4:39 am)

The actual rate of depreciation is not given. But there are 5 different levels of ratings, so the CTS is in the middle.
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Re: Well... [circlew] by sls002
Jul 16, 2008 (6:00 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 15, 2008 5:48 pm)

The Mercedes C-class is no better than the CTS for retaining value.
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Re: Well... [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2008 (6:11 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 16, 2008 5:58 am)

But there are 5 different levels of ratings, so the CTS is in the middle.
 
And, as has been noted, has similar depreciation to most of it's competition.
 
If you want actual depreciation you need to pay for it or go to a bank who did.
 
Anyone know of any other source other than looking at the classified's? (something like reading tea leaves).
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new Cadillacs by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2008 (6:19 am)
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In listening to Lutz during the question and answer period he mentioned that a number of new small vehicles will be developed for Cadillac and Pontiac/Buick.
 
I have not heard much lately on the BLS replacement. Did a google search and the hits are all pretty old.
 
Anyone know how to google and list out by date?
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CAdillac #1 in owner satisfaction by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2008 (6:23 am)
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We all have our favorites, our own loyalties and preferences. But in a survey of new vehicle buyers released today, only one brand can be at the top. The number one brand in the US in owner satisfaction in 2008 is Cadillac, according to AutoPacific’s annual Vehicle Satisfaction Awards (VSA) study.
 
This study is based solely on the opinions of actual new vehicle owners rating their new 2008 models. AutoPacific adds no “3rd party” opinion to the owner survey results, which are grouped into 28 car and truck segments. For more information, check out AutoPacific’s blog.
 
Cadillac’s overall win stems from the Escalade, Escalade EXT, the new CTS sport sedan and the DTS luxury sedan each winning the title as “most satisfying” in their individual market segments. Across all segments in the study, no auto brand (including BMW, Lexus, Mercedes and the others) was rated as highly by consumers as Cadillac.

 
Says they only asked actual owners of the vehcles. Do they not know that the non owners have an opinion also and that their reality is more important?
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Re: CAdillac #1 in owner satisfaction [62vetteefp] by lemko
Jul 16, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 16, 2008 6:23 am)

Ask the man who owns one! I'm on my fifth Cadillac and I'm still a young man! If that isn't a ringing endorsement for Cadillac, what is?
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Re: CAdillac #1 in owner satisfaction [lemko] by steve_ HOST
Jul 16, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 16, 2008 6:55 am)

We need to hook you up with that plate spinner guy from the Ed Sullivan Show and do a commercial. Maybe Topo Gigo can show up too.

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