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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Well... [62vetteefp] by circlew
Jul 15, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 15, 2008 2:27 am)

Yes, I made a mistake. I do not need to convince anyone regarding GM. I don't hate anyone or thing. Just think way better choices out there.
 
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OW
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Re: Well... [sls002] by circlew
Jul 15, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 15, 2008 5:25 am)

Here is another link but I was aware this time and checked. 65 2006 CTS are listed for $16K.
 
This one has 38,564 miles and looks in great shape.
 
link title
 
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Re: Well... [circlew] by sls002
Jul 15, 2008 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 15, 2008 4:01 pm)

Proves nothing. However here is a C-class priced at $11,000
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Re: Well... [sls002] by circlew
Jul 15, 2008 (4:48 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 15, 2008 4:24 pm)

Proves there are many CTS valued exactly as they are offered for sale.
 
If the owners paid even $30K when new, how's that for a value proposition?
 
Let's check back in about a month. A line in the sand, if you will.
 
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Re: Well... [circlew] by 62vetteefp
Jul 15, 2008 (5:55 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 15, 2008 4:48 pm)

Why don't you use the data that ALG provides instead of picking specific single data points?
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Re: Well... [circlew] by laurasdada
Jul 15, 2008 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 15, 2008 4:48 pm)

But does anyone really want to buy a used first gen CTS??? I mean, look at it! Look at the interior!!! Really, the first time I saw the 1G CTS at the New England Auto Show years ago I was truly shocked at how (yes, IMO) ugly the car was inside (especially inside!) and out. And the sticker was $40k+!!! Seriously???!!!
 
Now, Gen 2, I think we have an ugly duckling to almost swan transformation here. Clean up the front end, and we'll talk. The interior? Just a huge improvement...
 
YMMV
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Re: Well... [laurasdada] by circlew
Jul 16, 2008 (2:57 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 15, 2008 7:12 pm)

Exactly my point. Ergo the depreciation is high.
 
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OW
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Re: Well... [62vetteefp] by circlew
Jul 16, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jul 15, 2008 5:55 pm)

I'll check ALG out. Until 2008, the CTS will not perform well regarding depreciation, IMO.
 
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OW
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Re: Well... [circlew] by 62vetteefp
Jul 16, 2008 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 16, 2008 3:02 am)

https://www.alg.com/depratings
 
My link I listed earlier did not seem to work. anyway, all the below 2006 vehicles are 3 stars:
 
Cadillac CTS Escalade
Mercedes Benz C Class Clk Class Cls Class M Class R Class SL Class
Acura RDX RL
Audi A3 A6 Q7
BMW X3 Series X5 Series
Lexus ES350 GS350/430 LS460 LX470
 
Looks to me like the data shows that the 2006 CTS is right in there with everyone of its competitors except the BMW 3 series and Acura TL which are 5 star and the 4 star BMW 5 series. So I guess we could say the 2006 CTS did not perform well in your reality but hangs out with some good company in the actual US everyone else lives in.
 
ALG is pleased to announce the release of the ALG™ Depreciation Ratings. Based on 2006 model year vehicles, the 1 through 5 star ALG ratings provide consumers with an accurate and convenient method to determine the amount of depreciation a vehicle will experience over the lifetime of ownership. ALG Depreciation Ratings will be featured on Edmunds.com.
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Re: Well... [laurasdada] by lemko
Jul 16, 2008 (4:51 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Jul 15, 2008 7:12 pm)

I drove a 2005 CTS and it wasn't a bad car. Really, the materials used in the car are nicer than they appear and it was a fun little ride and economical too. However, the new CTS is so awesome, the old one comes on like a plate spinner who appears on the Ed Sullivan Show after the Beatles.

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