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I do think that the 2008 CTS may be as good as the STS V6. I do think that for the money the CTS is a bargain compared to 5-series V6. I agree with the 1st statement, but heres the thing with the latter: True the v6 CTS is darn cheap compared to 535i, but we cant forget that buyers considering 5series normally throw the word value out the window. In the realm of midsize luxury, Infniti's M and Acura RL are the value leaders. I think that it might have been better to terminate the STS and call the new CTS the STS. This would have left a hole where the CTS was, but the new CTS is not a 3-series anyway. Before doing that take a look at the competition. Take the M35 as an example, which btw is already considered somewhat lacking in the luxury appointments, yet still have better quality than CTS or even STS, both inside and out. Sit in one, examine the fit-finish, the interior materials, and do the same with CTS and STS. I bet you'll notice the difference right away. Unlike the 3series market, those are what sell in this market!!! Trying to catch up with the pack means the CTS needs upsizing, new interior materials, and other luxury appointments. The result? Higher price... when that happens the CTS wont be that much of a value anymore. I believe the CTS sell pretty well right now because its a domestic alternative to BMW 3series and other imports. Bigger than competition means a huge advantage over the cramped europeans. Plus, cheaper maintenance, and I admit its got good handling and soft ride. That might work on entry level market, but what about the midsize luxo? Just my 2 cents...
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 12, 2008 11:01 pm) The 5-series offers a lot of refinements that the 3-series does not have, in performance and luxury. The STS does not have some of the handling refinements either and the magazines say the STS's interior materials are lower quality than the European's. My point has been that the STS and DTS will be combined into a new RWD model on a new platform and what this new car will be is somewhat unclear. It will be something like the G8 and perhaps there will be an STS that is an upgraded G8. The DTS will probably be a longer wheelbase G8. |
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 13, 2008 8:55 am) That's just the reality as I see. it. Regars, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 13, 2008 9:10 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 13, 2008 8:55 am) |
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Replying to: sls002 (Jul 13, 2008 3:14 pm) Yeah, and the funny thing is, the people to whom I give rides love those overstuffed velour seats in my 1988 Park Avenue and wish automakers still put them in cars. |
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 13, 2008 9:10 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 14, 2008 4:41 am) 2006 CTS 36K miles, Retail Value = $15,740. NICE! Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 14, 2008 4:59 am) I doubt any two year-old CTS that met my used car standards would be sold so cheaply.
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