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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Cadillac, a real steal??? [bumpy] by lemko
Jul 06, 2008 (7:16 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 05, 2008 1:31 pm)

Yes, I have gap insurance and I will be taking that and the $18K check straight to the Cadillac dealer for a replacement in such an event!
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Re: Cadillac, a real steal??? [bumpy] by sls002
Jul 06, 2008 (8:24 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 05, 2008 1:31 pm)

Not sure where your $18,000 is coming from, but cars.com suggests that a 2006 DTS ranges in retail value from somewhere around $35,000 to much less. The median priced (about #400 out of 800+) is about $26,000. Insurance companies should total the car for something more than the lowest NADA book value but perhaps not retail.
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M5 depreciation by sls002
Jul 06, 2008 (8:52 am)
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Looking at a dealer site a typical new M5 runs about $95,000 list. 2006 M5's (with the V10) vary in price but are easily $30,000 less and upwards of $40,000 to $50,000 less at the low end (where mint condition is least likely).
 
This point being that BMW's depreciate too, not just Cadillacs. The six cylinder 5 series models look to be about $15 to 20,000 less than new for 2006 models compared to the base price. Assuming some optional equipment, the actual depreciation is perhaps $10,000 more, say about $25,000 on a new price of $60,000.
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When you REALLY by marsha7
Jul 06, 2008 (2:21 pm)
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think about it, it is amazing to me that ANY car holds any value after 2 years...try selling used furniture or a stereo 2 years after purchase, and both of them are probably closer to brand new condition than any car you might buy, yet they are barely worth 10 cents on the dollar...
 
We all whine about car depreciation, but we ought to be lucky that our cars don't lose value like our furniture...
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At lease Caddy is safe... by circlew
Jul 07, 2008 (4:56 am)
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..for now.
 
GM mulling thousands of job cuts, sale of brands: report
 
link title
 
How those that affect resale values now?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: At lease Caddy is safe... [circlew] by sls002
Jul 07, 2008 (5:30 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 07, 2008 4:56 am)

Cadillac has moved into what is Buick's price range with the CTS. Pontiac's are mostly the same thing as Chevies. I think GM could go with a basic line of Chevy/Cadillac.
 
Resale values will depend more on if GM will be around to service the warranty. However, selling a new Buick once GM decides to terminate Buick will be hard.
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Doubt GM will terminate Buick... by lemko
Jul 07, 2008 (5:37 am)
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...as they have a strong presence in China. Pontiac looks more vulnerable and Hummer and Saab have absolutely no reason to exist.
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Re: Doubt GM will terminate Buick... [lemko] by sls002
Jul 07, 2008 (11:39 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Jul 07, 2008 5:37 am)

The obvious thing would be to supply the Buick/Pontiac/GMC dealers with chinese Buicks and Australian Pontiacs. Pricing them high enough would soon bankrupt the dealers, leaving Chevy/Cadillac.
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Ah yes... by m4d_cow
Jul 08, 2008 (2:07 am)
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Buick's doing pretty decent in China, and believe it or not, so is Cadillac. Stroll around in Beijing or Shanghai and you'll see Escalades everywhere. Then again so is Chrysler 300. Interestingly, no Lincoln is seen there (then again, who cares).
 
marsha7, you got a real good point. The thing is cars cost a lot more than furnitures, so we tend to whine more about the $$$ we lose on the way, unless youre talking about those $20k sofa and beds from Italy

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