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#4937 of 6098 Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [circlew] by bumpy Jul 02, 2008 (3:38 am)
Replying to: circlew (Jul 02, 2008 3:02 am) Cadillac: 14,337   Acura: 12,456 Audi: 8,203 BMW: 20,944 Infiniti: 9,304 Lexus: 20,253 Lincoln: 9,718 Mercedes Benz: 19,576 Replies to this message: circlew (Jul 02, 2008 3:44 am)
#4938 of 6098 Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [bumpy] by circlew Jul 02, 2008 (3:44 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Jul 02, 2008 3:38 am) Excellent. 4th place in June is not bad. BMW takes the month I assume with good 3'er sales.   Regards, OW
#4939 of 6098 Re: KBB value [circlew] by cooterbfd Jul 02, 2008 (1:45 pm)
Replying to: circlew (Jun 30, 2008 7:22 am) I am sure you could get a reasonable condition 2006 with 30 - 40 K miles for $20 - 22K. At the end of the day, you will need an extended warranty anyway so why pay in the $30K range.   Why would you need an extended warranty?? Our Rainier's 3/36 ran out in 11/06, and has yet to cost me a dime??? My '99 Ultra has been in for ONE repair in 6 years, a MAF sensor, at a total cost of $250. Everything else has been routine maint. Tires, brakes, rotors, tune-up, and oil changes. A couple other things broke (door handle, seat belt latch, fuel line) but I replaced them myself.   This car, while not the most impressive thing I've owned, has cost me about $1250 in 6 years. $500 for tires, $250 for a fender (my fault).   When you take into account the $250 for the sensor, that leaves $250 for everything else-IN 6 YEARS!!!   Warranty? What Warranty??? Replies to this message: circlew (Jul 03, 2008 2:31 am)
#4940 of 6098 caddi sales by m4d_cow Jul 02, 2008 (10:41 pm)
Thats not bad. I wonder what happened to Audi though, I heard sales has been rising significantly but the numbers dont seem to agree.   sls, as far as I know its because a "new" leftover car is considered a used car with very low mileage and new car warranty.   Two things a Cadillac does have over a German car is that it is far more reliable and a lot more cost-effective to have it serviced and repaired.   That I agree. The cadi's really cheap to maintain, beaten only by BMW with its standard 4 yr free maintenance. I figure I'd lose another 5k over 2 years, which is very reasonable. I dont know if I'd love the car, as this is the 1st time I'm considering a domestic brand. But $25k for a certified 06 STS? I figure I'll take that bet, since a 3 yr old 300c cost about the same, and that kind of money buys me only a much older german lux sedan. Replies to this message: circlew (Jul 03, 2008 2:33 am) sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:28 am) m4d_cow (Jul 03, 2008 9:20 am) sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:32 pm) and 1 more...
#4941 of 6098 Re: KBB value [cooterbfd] by circlew Jul 03, 2008 (2:31 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 02, 2008 1:45 pm) Because my 2003 "Professional Grade Denali has racked up over $3,000 of repairs so far in 59K miles. All within the 40 K range!!!!!!   That's why.   Regards, OW
#4942 of 6098 Re: caddi sales [m4d_cow] by circlew Jul 03, 2008 (2:33 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2008 10:41 pm) The value proposition does work for a 3 year old Caddy. My problem is the styling, however. I could just forget about it...at these prices.   Regards, OW
#4943 of 6098 Re: caddi sales [m4d_cow] by sls002 Jul 03, 2008 (7:28 am)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2008 10:41 pm) Again, the dealer with the new leftover car from a previous model year can try to get as much for it as they want. All you can do is make an offer which the dealer is free to reject. Cars.com has 750 2006 STS's listed. This one is about $40,000 with 200 miles on it. Replies to this message: m4d_cow (Jul 03, 2008 9:20 am) sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:32 pm) lemko (Jul 04, 2008 6:58 am)
#4944 of 6098 Re: caddi sales [sls002] by m4d_cow Jul 03, 2008 (9:20 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:28 am) Youre right about dealers can charge whatever they want. Its up to us whether we'll buy it or not. A new 06 for 40k, but a certified used 06 for 25k, its no contest.   circle, the styling left me a bit cold too, and it might not suit younger buyers like me. But like I said, for this price, I dont mind. 25k for certified 06, the same as 06 Chrysler 300c with much crappier interior and build quality, and a little less than a (far) smaller 06 bmw 330i.   I'll invest a little more $$$ on non-chrome 18-19" wheels (gosh the wheels are cheesy) and aftermarket grill. That should fix it. Replies to this message: sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:32 pm) lemko (Jul 04, 2008 6:58 am)
#4945 of 6098 Re: caddi sales [m4d_cow] by sls002 Jul 03, 2008 (7:32 pm)
Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 03, 2008 9:20 am) This is the first under $25,000 STS on cars.com. It has less than 6000 miles which is not bad for a 2006. It is about 500 cars into the listings of more than 750.   Here is a V for under $10,000, a real "steal". I suggest that you read the description carefully Replies to this message: lemko (Jul 04, 2008 6:58 am)
#4946 of 6098 Re: caddi sales [sls002] by lemko Jul 04, 2008 (6:58 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Jul 03, 2008 7:32 pm) Geeze! You're essentially buying just a shell! You also have two busted windows, a trashed interior, and no radio. I guess if you can find another engine/transmission you can turn it into a racer.

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