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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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June Sales - Toyota #1? by circlew
Jul 01, 2008 (8:33 am)
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AP
Ford Motor's June sales skid 27.9 percent
Tuesday July 1, 12:28 pm ET
By Tom Krisher and Dee-Ann Durbin, AP Auto Writers
Ford Motor's June sales drop 27.9 percent as high gas prices, sluggish economy take toll.

 
DETROIT (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. says its U.S. sales tumbled 27.9 percent in June as high gas prices and a weak economy deepened the trouble facing the company.
 
The company blames the decline on high gas prices and low consumer confidence that are sending buyers to the sidelines. Ford reports steep drops in sales of pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles.
 
For the first half of the year, Ford's sales were down 14 percent compared with the year-ago period.
 
Ford is the first automaker to report sales data Tuesday. Industry analysts expect June to be a dismal month for the industry with sales down double digits from last June.
 
They also say Toyota Motor Corp. may take the U.S. sales lead from General Motors Corp.
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [circlew] by steve_ HOST
Jul 01, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2008 8:33 am)

Breaking news from the WSJ indicates that GM will continue to hold the crown:
 
"General Motors posts nearly 19% drop in U.S. sales for June, but wards off challenge to No. 1 ranking from Toyota."
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [steve_] by circlew
Jul 02, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2008 10:23 am)

Anyone know Caddy sales vs. Big 3 germans and asians?
 
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OW
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [circlew] by bumpy
Jul 02, 2008 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 02, 2008 3:02 am)

Cadillac: 14,337
 
Acura: 12,456
Audi: 8,203
BMW: 20,944
Infiniti: 9,304
Lexus: 20,253
Lincoln: 9,718
Mercedes Benz: 19,576
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [bumpy] by circlew
Jul 02, 2008 (3:44 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 02, 2008 3:38 am)

Excellent. 4th place in June is not bad. BMW takes the month I assume with good 3'er sales.
 
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OW
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Re: KBB value [circlew] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 30, 2008 7:22 am)

I am sure you could get a reasonable condition 2006 with 30 - 40 K miles for $20 - 22K. At the end of the day, you will need an extended warranty anyway so why pay in the $30K range.
 
Why would you need an extended warranty?? Our Rainier's 3/36 ran out in 11/06, and has yet to cost me a dime??? My '99 Ultra has been in for ONE repair in 6 years, a MAF sensor, at a total cost of $250. Everything else has been routine maint. Tires, brakes, rotors, tune-up, and oil changes. A couple other things broke (door handle, seat belt latch, fuel line) but I replaced them myself.
 
This car, while not the most impressive thing I've owned, has cost me about $1250 in 6 years. $500 for tires, $250 for a fender (my fault).
 
When you take into account the $250 for the sensor, that leaves $250 for everything else-IN 6 YEARS!!!
 
Warranty? What Warranty???
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caddi sales by m4d_cow
Jul 02, 2008 (10:41 pm)
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Thats not bad. I wonder what happened to Audi though, I heard sales has been rising significantly but the numbers dont seem to agree.
 
sls, as far as I know its because a "new" leftover car is considered a used car with very low mileage and new car warranty.
 
Two things a Cadillac does have over a German car is that it is far more reliable and a lot more cost-effective to have it serviced and repaired.
 
That I agree. The cadi's really cheap to maintain, beaten only by BMW with its standard 4 yr free maintenance. I figure I'd lose another 5k over 2 years, which is very reasonable. I dont know if I'd love the car, as this is the 1st time I'm considering a domestic brand.
But $25k for a certified 06 STS? I figure I'll take that bet, since a 3 yr old 300c cost about the same, and that kind of money buys me only a much older german lux sedan.
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Re: KBB value [cooterbfd] by circlew
Jul 03, 2008 (2:31 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Jul 02, 2008 1:45 pm)

Because my 2003 "Professional Grade Denali has racked up over $3,000 of repairs so far in 59K miles. All within the 40 K range!!!!!!
 
That's why.
 
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OW
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Re: caddi sales [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jul 03, 2008 (2:33 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2008 10:41 pm)

The value proposition does work for a 3 year old Caddy. My problem is the styling, however. I could just forget about it...at these prices.
 
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OW
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Re: caddi sales [m4d_cow] by sls002
Jul 03, 2008 (7:28 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 02, 2008 10:41 pm)

Again, the dealer with the new leftover car from a previous model year can try to get as much for it as they want. All you can do is make an offer which the dealer is free to reject. Cars.com has 750 2006 STS's listed. This one is about $40,000 with 200 miles on it.

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