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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: KBB value [circlew] by sls002
Jun 30, 2008 (7:10 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 30, 2008 7:22 am)

The current oil price expectation are that the 4th of July weekend will push prices beyond $150.
 
Some dealers include the 6 year 100,000 certified used warranty on program cars. There are quite a few 2006's available as many are now coming off lease. When I was looking for a 2006 at the end of the 2006 model year (an SRX) there were not a lot available, and my local dealer who said they could get one at a low price, did not come through with anything for several months. I finally realized that the 2007 was probably a better choice and bought a new one with everything I wanted. Never been smoked in
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sls002 by m4d_cow
Jul 01, 2008 (1:28 am)
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If the STS still cost 40k I'd look somewhere else. If I'm gonna spend that much I'd better buy a Lexus Infiniti or Audi. They have better quality and resale value. I personally find Cadillac too arrogant to push the STS' price too close to the Japanese and German luxo midsizes (charging 55k for STS v6 when a 535i cost about the same).
 
"I am sure you could get a reasonable condition 2006 with 30 - 40 K miles for $20 - 22K. At the end of the day, you will need an extended warranty anyway so why pay in the $30K range"
 
Umm, because the leftover 06 is brand new, includes 4 yr new car warranty and got only 130 miles on odometer. Btw I heard a mint 06 STS with low mileage will only cost about 3-5k extra.
 
"Also some are clearly dealer come-on's to get a buyer into the showroom - requiring you to bring a printout of the ad to get the internet price"
 
Why not? I'd bring a printout anytime if it means I can save a few thousands.
 
Btw when it comes to resale, is it easier to sell the leftover or the used one? Which will plummet worse? Any ideas? I wonder how much I'll lose every year.
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Re: sls002 [m4d_cow] by lemko
Jul 01, 2008 (4:28 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 01, 2008 1:28 am)

If you like the car, does it really matter? You're saving more upfront anyway. I really don't give a rip about resale value as I keep my cars a long time and believe buying a car you don't like just because it's got better resale value is still wasting your money. Two things a Cadillac does have over a German car is that it is far more reliable and a lot more cost-effective to have it serviced and repaired.
 
As per Lexus, buy a Buick Park Avenue and save the money. A Lexus LS drives just like one.
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Re: sls002 [m4d_cow] by sls002
Jul 01, 2008 (5:14 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jul 01, 2008 1:28 am)

Btw when it comes to resale, is it easier to sell the leftover or the used one? Which will plummet worse? Any ideas? I wonder how much I'll lose every year.
 
Once you buy the "new" one, it is a used car and will be worth only what the trade in value is when you want to sell/trade.
 
If you actually know where a new 2006 is, then whatever deal you can work out with that dealer is what is possible. I also found a new SRX at one point that was a year old (2005 or maybe 04), but the dealership had decided they would use the vehicle themselves rather than sell at market value.
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June Sales - Toyota #1? by circlew
Jul 01, 2008 (8:33 am)
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AP
Ford Motor's June sales skid 27.9 percent
Tuesday July 1, 12:28 pm ET
By Tom Krisher and Dee-Ann Durbin, AP Auto Writers
Ford Motor's June sales drop 27.9 percent as high gas prices, sluggish economy take toll.

 
DETROIT (AP) -- Ford Motor Co. says its U.S. sales tumbled 27.9 percent in June as high gas prices and a weak economy deepened the trouble facing the company.
 
The company blames the decline on high gas prices and low consumer confidence that are sending buyers to the sidelines. Ford reports steep drops in sales of pickup trucks and sport utility vehicles.
 
For the first half of the year, Ford's sales were down 14 percent compared with the year-ago period.
 
Ford is the first automaker to report sales data Tuesday. Industry analysts expect June to be a dismal month for the industry with sales down double digits from last June.
 
They also say Toyota Motor Corp. may take the U.S. sales lead from General Motors Corp.
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [circlew] by steve_ HOST
Jul 01, 2008 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 01, 2008 8:33 am)

Breaking news from the WSJ indicates that GM will continue to hold the crown:
 
"General Motors posts nearly 19% drop in U.S. sales for June, but wards off challenge to No. 1 ranking from Toyota."
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [steve_] by circlew
Jul 02, 2008 (3:02 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jul 01, 2008 10:23 am)

Anyone know Caddy sales vs. Big 3 germans and asians?
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [circlew] by bumpy
Jul 02, 2008 (3:38 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Jul 02, 2008 3:02 am)

Cadillac: 14,337
 
Acura: 12,456
Audi: 8,203
BMW: 20,944
Infiniti: 9,304
Lexus: 20,253
Lincoln: 9,718
Mercedes Benz: 19,576
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Re: June Sales - Toyota #1? [bumpy] by circlew
Jul 02, 2008 (3:44 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Jul 02, 2008 3:38 am)

Excellent. 4th place in June is not bad. BMW takes the month I assume with good 3'er sales.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: KBB value [circlew] by cooterbfd
Jul 02, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Jun 30, 2008 7:22 am)

I am sure you could get a reasonable condition 2006 with 30 - 40 K miles for $20 - 22K. At the end of the day, you will need an extended warranty anyway so why pay in the $30K range.
 
Why would you need an extended warranty?? Our Rainier's 3/36 ran out in 11/06, and has yet to cost me a dime??? My '99 Ultra has been in for ONE repair in 6 years, a MAF sensor, at a total cost of $250. Everything else has been routine maint. Tires, brakes, rotors, tune-up, and oil changes. A couple other things broke (door handle, seat belt latch, fuel line) but I replaced them myself.
 
This car, while not the most impressive thing I've owned, has cost me about $1250 in 6 years. $500 for tires, $250 for a fender (my fault).
 
When you take into account the $250 for the sensor, that leaves $250 for everything else-IN 6 YEARS!!!
 
Warranty? What Warranty???

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