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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Cadillac, a real steal??? [irnmdn] by fintail
Jun 28, 2008 (4:05 pm)
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Replying to: irnmdn (Jun 28, 2008 12:47 pm)

Is that a V? That's a huge msrp.
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Re: Cadillac, a real steal??? [irnmdn] by circlew
Jun 28, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: irnmdn (Jun 28, 2008 12:47 pm)

It isn't even worth $47K. Depreciation on that in 3 years will cost you another $20K.
 
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OW
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Well... by m4d_cow
Jun 28, 2008 (9:57 pm)
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Someone suggest that I should be able to get the car at a used car price, about 55% off the new price. Is it possible? I mean that'll make a 50k STS a real steal at around 27-30k...
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Re: Well... [m4d_cow] by sls002
Jun 29, 2008 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jun 28, 2008 9:57 pm)

eBay Motors and Cars.com are both good places to see used/program cars that are available. I see little evidence that STS's are going cheaply. On new SRX's and STS's, there is a $3000 (SRX) or $3500 (STS) incentive or 0% interest.
 
The program cars have been quite good pricewise in the past, so current prices seem to be inline with that.
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Re: Well... [m4d_cow] by circlew
Jun 29, 2008 (10:06 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jun 28, 2008 9:57 pm)

Kelly Blue Book shows a 2006 sts V-8 with 40K miles ata aprivate party sale price of $22,160. This is the HIGHER value on the site vs. dealer trade in or book value.
 
Yes, 50% is the norm for US car depreciation costs. With the V-8, you should be able to negotiate $20K no sweat! I see many at dealer sites for 2006 v-6 for $22K.
 
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OW
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KBB value by m4d_cow
Jun 30, 2008 (1:32 am)
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Many said its rather inaccurate, higher than the real world value. Heck if KBB rate the used STS at 20k, the real price can be even lower.....
A leftover new 06-07 v6 can be had for under 30k I heard, complete with new car warranty. Will that be a better deal than getting a used one? I'd definitely get a certified one (if used) for a mere 1k extra.
 
Wait a sec, cicrlew, 22k for an '06 v6? Now I'm really interested. That is something even college grads can afford. I do however question the chances for resale, not the value (I expect them to plummet, maybe lose another 5k in 2 years?) but whether its easy, or even possible to sell.....
 
I've only taken a good look once. Thought the interior is pretty nice though the fabric parts look downright cheap. Design is ok. Fuel mileage is a question though, anybody know the realtime mileage??
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Re: Cadillac, a real steal??? [fintail] by irnmdn
Jun 30, 2008 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Jun 28, 2008 4:05 pm)

I don't think it is a V, it has everthing option like Bose5.1, magna ride etc.
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Re: KBB value [m4d_cow] by sls002
Jun 30, 2008 (5:41 am)
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Replying to: m4d_cow (Jun 30, 2008 1:32 am)

Looking at the first 100 STS's listed on cars.com suggests that the price of the V-series is in the range of $40 to $50,000 for 2006 models. The STS is lower, but around $40,000. Jumping out to the middle of the 700 plus listed gets the price under $30,000, but these may be vehicles that are less than mint condition. Also some are clearly dealer come-on's to get a buyer into the showroom - requiring you to bring a printout of the ad to get the internet price.
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Re: KBB value [sls002] by lemko
Jun 30, 2008 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jun 30, 2008 5:41 am)

Fell for it once - ONCE! A local dealer in Pensauken, NJ (you know the one) was advertising a two year-old Cadillac DeVille for only $9,999. I went over to see it and it was sold, of course. It also looked like it had been dumped in the Delaware River and then recovered a month later. Of course the friendly salesman was happy to show me the other pre-owned Cadillacs which were 2.5-3 times the price as the screamer ad special.
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Re: KBB value [sls002] by circlew
Jun 30, 2008 (7:22 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jun 30, 2008 5:41 am)

I am sure you could get a reasonable condition 2006 with 30 - 40 K miles for $20 - 22K. At the end of the day, you will need an extended warranty anyway so why pay in the $30K range.
 
If not today than in August when oil breaks $150/bbl. theses prices will drop like stones.
 
Regards,
OW

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