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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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#4894 of 6098 Re: I'm counting on it! [fintail] by british_rover Apr 07, 2008 (9:11 am)
Replying to: fintail (Apr 07, 2008 8:50 am) Thats exactly what the XLR was.   Standard retractable hardtop Check Swanky interior with lots of dead trees Check Optional Supercharged Engine Check Replies to this message: laurasdada (Apr 07, 2008 9:49 am) fintail (Apr 07, 2008 11:49 am)
#4896 of 6098 Re: I'm counting on it! [british_rover] by laurasdada Apr 07, 2008 (9:49 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Apr 07, 2008 9:11 am) Overpriced Check... Interior not quite swanky enough for above mentioned entry of admission Check   Still eyeing used XLRs though...
#4897 of 6098 Re: I'm counting on it! [british_rover] by fintail Apr 07, 2008 (11:49 am)
Replying to: british_rover (Apr 07, 2008 9:11 am) Whenever I think of the XLR I have the vision in my head of Clarkson (yeah I know, not exactly an unbiased mouth) driving one around a desert track, and hating it.   But perhaps a used bargain, they seem to be depreciating even worse than the high end SLs....and wait til those get the facelift. Nothing kills MB value like a new model.
#4898 of 6098 STS/DTS-Zeta/Sigma combined by 62vetteefp May 06, 2008 (3:53 am)
In order to cut cost, General Motors will merge the rear-wheel drive Zeta and Sigma platforms, a new report finds. The Zeta platform currently underpins the Pontiac G8 and the upcoming Chevrolet Camaro, while the Sigma platform is exclusively used for the Cadillac brand (CTS, SRX and STS).   According to Motor Trend, the first car to bow on the merged platform will be the 2011 Cadillac STS/DTS replacement. Following that car's launch, the new platform will underpin several other models. Replies to this message: circlew (May 06, 2008 5:41 am) bumpy (May 06, 2008 6:41 am) circlew (May 06, 2008 6:43 am) 62vetteefp (May 06, 2008 8:03 am) aldw (May 07, 2008 5:28 am) 62vetteefp (May 07, 2008 7:05 am) and 1 more...
#4899 of 6098 Re: STS/DTS-Zeta/Sigma combined [62vetteefp] by circlew May 06, 2008 (5:41 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (May 06, 2008 3:53 am) After a test drive this past weekend in the base G8, I can say this is a solid platform but I would prefer the sport suspension. The V-6 exhaust note was very raspy but the acoustics at cruise speed was whisper-quiet and no rattles, squeaks or noises to be heard. Steering was a little numb but acceptable compare to the past Pontiac Dinosaurs. Brakes were good but could use the meat of the GT. I'll try that one soon.   Not bad but still can be improved IMO.   Regards, OW
#4900 of 6098 Re: STS/DTS-Zeta/Sigma combined [62vetteefp] by bumpy May 06, 2008 (6:41 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (May 06, 2008 3:53 am) No surprise there; GM can't afford to have two separate platforms that do exactly the same thing. It also confirms what I suspected when the DOHC V8 was killed: that Cadillac is going to be a 300C with a better interior and not a true luxury car. Replies to this message: circlew (May 06, 2008 6:43 am) 62vetteefp (May 06, 2008 8:03 am) aldw (May 07, 2008 5:28 am) 62vetteefp (May 07, 2008 7:05 am) sls002 (May 07, 2008 9:25 am)
#4901 of 6098 Re: STS/DTS-Zeta/Sigma combined [bumpy] by circlew May 06, 2008 (6:43 am)
Replying to: bumpy (May 06, 2008 6:41 am) Exactly. No US car is a true luxury car..let alone any GM.   Regards, OW
#4902 of 6098 Re: STS/DTS-Zeta/Sigma combined [bumpy] by 62vetteefp May 06, 2008 (8:03 am)
Replying to: bumpy (May 06, 2008 6:41 am) From what I have read the Cadillacs will use the basic floorpan architecture and cowl but use specific aluminum suspension pieces. It will have a different type suspension than the non Cadillacs.
#4903 of 6098 Re: STS/DTS-Zeta/Sigma combined [bumpy] by aldw May 07, 2008 (5:28 am)
Replying to: bumpy (May 06, 2008 6:41 am) Without a full product setup like the Toyota/Lexus combo to compete with the Germans, no US manufacturer at this point has the product breadth and depth from the top to the bottom to really stand out in the North American marketplace, even though the capacity to do so is there. GM's canceling of the DOHC Ultra V-8 shows more lack of willpower sadly than any technical issues. Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (May 07, 2008 7:05 am) sls002 (May 07, 2008 9:25 am)

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