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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Meanwhile, back in 2008... [circlew] by laurasdada
Mar 02, 2008 (10:32 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Mar 02, 2008 10:10 am)

I''m assuming that as my Dad went from Queens, NY to a New England liberal arts college, he was there bitten by the imported car bug during those years. My first car recollection of his car was a red Borgward. My earliest memory of my mother's car, a white Buick convert with red interior.
 
BUt they gave up on domestics in the early '70s after a string of bad experiences, culminating with a Ford LTD Country Squire wagon(IIRC). I still remember riding in the rear facing seats, sans seatbelts, waving to cars behind us... Saabs, Mercedes, Renault (!?), Datsun, Acura, Honda, Mitsubishi and even VW graced his garage. He did return to domestics in the '90s, didn't want to hold a grudge his whole life... A Chrysler Concorde that treated him well and a Caddy Catera that sent him back to the imports. He defended the Catera as a nice drive, unfortunately most of the driving was done by mechanics...
 
I'm not sure if I hate to admit it, but cars didn't mean much to me until... the Fiat X1/9! Something about that car just caught my fancy, I had a big poster of it on my walls. Never owned one as by the time I could drive/afford to buy a car I knew well of Fiat's reputation and they were exiting our marketplace. I've been mostly Japanese car-wise my whole life but my very first car was a used '78 VW Scirocco. Loved that car, hated to see it rust away...
 
But, being fair and balanced as I am, my prior ride was a '99 Chrysler 300M that, while I would award it no build quality trophies, I too loved. Reliable enough, with personality, decent performance/handling for such a large-ish car and decent mpg. Much better in the snow than my TL. Enjoy the TL, too...
 
Having said this, I want a Jag XK. Thank you.
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Re: Meanwhile, back in 2008... [laurasdada] by circlew
Mar 02, 2008 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Mar 02, 2008 10:32 am)

Yes, forgiving is the key...I forgive the US Car manufacturers, just am bored stiff with the offerings. Now that I have the 3 series, can I ever really go back to domestics?
 
We shall see.
 

 
Nice!!
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: Meanwhile, back in 2008... [laurasdada] by lemko
Mar 03, 2008 (5:43 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Mar 02, 2008 10:32 am)

...a Caddy Catera that sent him back to the imports.
 
Actually, he already was back at the imports as a Catera was really an Opel Omega underneath and made in Germany. Not surprised that the Ford Country Squire sent him over to the imports in the first place. My Dad had a 1972 Ford LTD Country Squire and it was easily the worst car he ever owned.
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what others are saying by steve_ HOST
Mar 03, 2008 (7:29 am)
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"The Yanks have become rather obsessed with making their cars more 'European' of late and they're starting to get good at it.
 
Irrespective of what the cynics say, Cadillacs are not the chrome-laden barges of old."
 
Cadillac BLS Wagon (Crash.net)
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The question IS by sls002
Mar 03, 2008 (8:09 am)
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Has someone taken the trophy away from Cadillac?
Is the trophy a traveling trophy?
 
I think not. Therefore Cadillac is still the "standard of the world" as much as it ever was. The title was conferred by the Royal Automobile Club, who had the right to grant it at the time. Does anyone have a right to take it away and give to someone else?
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Re: The question IS [sls002] by fintail
Mar 03, 2008 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 03, 2008 8:09 am)

Is a Caddy any more "standard" than any other car?
 
It's a meaningless title from 100 years ago.
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Forget about Dewars and so-called Standard by xrunner2
Mar 03, 2008 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Mar 03, 2008 8:09 am)

I think not. Therefore Cadillac is still the "standard of the world" as much as it ever was. The title was conferred by the Royal Automobile Club, who had the right to grant it at the time. Does anyone have a right to take it away and give to someone else?
 
Who cares about Dewars or Royal Automobile Club. Only folks currently thinking about this are a handful of posters on this Edmunds board.
 
Is anybody interested in some race many decades ago? What are you doing for me today, or at least lately.
 
Forget about Dewars and Standard. Look at dictionary for meaning of "standard". Seems like the world standard for Cadillac company is BMW and Mercedes in that is who Cadillac is trying to emulate and beat.
 
What might be more relevant than an old Dewars race is if Cadillac had suceeded in their race efforts within last decade at 24 Hours LeMans. Cadillac tried briefly, then gave up. Back in late 60's, Ford was persistent in goal of winning LeMans and finally did in 1967 with American drivers (AJ Foyt being one).
 
GM and Cadillac perhaps could have put more effort into LeMans to try for victory. There are many American race car builders, such as Penske, Newman/Haas, Roush, etc, that could have got them a LeMans victory. Then, look at the bragging rights and positive publicity.
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Re: The question IS [fintail] by sls002
Mar 03, 2008 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Mar 03, 2008 8:41 am)

That was the gist of my post #9 in this forum. Now we are up to 4700+

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