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#4677 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [sls002] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (8:40 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:34 am) That was a bogus advertisement though, because the Deville was completely different from the Buick and Olds. The Buick and Olds were very similar from the side.   Yeah, I'm sure a Ford LTD (Crown Vic) and a Mercury Grand Marquis from that era also looked a lot alike (they still do...)   But, hey, it was a very effective ad...we still remember it 20, 25 years later... Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4678 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [xhe518] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:53 am)
Replying to: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) The roof lines of the C-bodies in the 70's and early 80's were very similar for Olds, Buick and the Devilles. The early 90's Buick Park Avenue, Olds 98 and Deville roofs were three distinctly different looks. Replies to this message: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4679 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [sls002] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (9:09 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) The roof lines of the C-bodies in the 70's and early 80's were very similar for Olds, Buick and the Devilles. The early 90's Buick Park Avenue, Olds 98 and Deville roofs were three distinctly different looks.   Yeah, the Buick and Olds used the same doors and roof, which limited styling differences to the grille and tail-lights basically. The 98 and Park Ave had the vertical rear glass, the 88 and LeSabre had the slightly raked rear glass.
#4680 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [xhe518] by lemko Feb 29, 2008 (9:55 am)
Replying to: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:35 am) Funny, I'm benefitting from that poor timing 20 years later with my 1988 Buick Park Avenue. I've gotta admit, the styling is a bit nondescript, but it actually is a pretty decent car that delivers great fuel economy. Funny how I hated the FWD C-Bodies 20 years ago. Replies to this message: circlew (Feb 29, 2008 2:25 pm)
#4681 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [lemko] by circlew Feb 29, 2008 (2:25 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am) MY mom has a 2001 BPA and gets 24-25 MPG on the highay and the interior is as big as my Dad's old '84 Fleetwood. That car got in the teens.   You see, my family had many Caddys and Buicks. The problem is they are pretty boring cars IMO anymore than they were in the past. The BGN comes to mind for blast from the past. I remember when I didn't have a license and the teens back in the '60's burnt the tires of those real Caddy's for at least 60 feet from the torque from those great engines off a power brake. The steel on the body was bullet proof and the interiors were first class. Little by little, that went away.   By the time I had enough money to buy a Caddy, I decided on a 1988 Lincoln Mark VII. Great car. No Caddy in '88 did it for me. I also had a 2003 Lincoln LSC.   And so it goes....today, a BMW. Tomorrow, who knows? I still can't get past that edgy CTS.   Regards, OW
#4683 of 6098 Re: The Only Luxury Car... [bumpy] by pmc4 Feb 29, 2008 (9:02 pm)
Replying to: bumpy (Feb 28, 2008 12:00 pm) "Looks like a late-70s Malibu with a Cadillac grille, emblematic of Cadillac's descent into irrelevance. Bleh"   Bumpy. Can you please show me a car from any manufacturer anywhere in the world that built a car as great and as great-looking as the 1976 Seville at anywhere remotely near Cadillac's $13,000 MSRP? Didn't think so.
#4684 of 6098 Re: You got it backwards... [lemko] by pmc4 Feb 29, 2008 (9:10 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 28, 2008 6:33 pm) You said you didn't like Cadillac's trend towards smaller cars with the 1980 redesign, and that you liked the big, RWD sedan Cadillac was still making. But, how was GM to address the gas crises at the time? The step toward the smaller Cadillacs (Car and Driver called the 1986 ElDorado the "ElDoradoette") was needed, and the cars came out still looking like the luxury cars they were!   Smaller, yet still luxurious.   Like I asked the other person, can you think of any non-Cadillac, non-domestic car that looked and drove remotely this luxuriously at remotely the same price? I just can't! Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Mar 01, 2008 6:26 am) lemko (Mar 01, 2008 8:17 am) cooterbfd (Mar 01, 2008 10:12 am) bumpy (Mar 01, 2008 3:20 pm) pmc4 (Mar 01, 2008 7:23 pm) fintail (Mar 01, 2008 8:10 pm) and 1 more... bumpy (Mar 01, 2008 10:08 pm) and 1 more... fintail (Mar 01, 2008 8:07 pm)
#4685 of 6098 Re: You got it backwards... [pmc4] by cooterbfd Mar 01, 2008 (6:26 am)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 29, 2008 9:10 pm) Like I asked the other person, can you think of any non-Cadillac, non-domestic car that looked and drove remotely this luxuriously at remotely the same price? I just can't!   You're absolutely right. I think the problem is, when you look at cars in this category, "prestige" and sportiness were in. You hadn't "arrived" yet unless you had imported things. Back then Perrier water was all the rage (Poland Spring will do me fine). That picture shows a fine looking, AMERICAN (personality-wise) personal luxury coupe. I remember seeing a 1986 Electra Park Av. coupe at a dealer. Beautiful car. Too bad they just weren't the "IN" thing. Replies to this message: lemko (Mar 01, 2008 8:17 am)

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