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#4673 of 6098 Re: You got it backwards... [lemko] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:22 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 5:44 am) I think that the FWD 85-87? Deville styling was not good. On the other hand the 86 Seville was very good, but looked very similar to the smaller GM cars like the Grand Am. The Seville's dashboard, designed for electronic displays, was not good looking. The 85 Buick Electra/Park_Avenue styling was also not great. GM was concerned about reducing weight and improving fuel economy at the time, not thinking that oil prices would collapse. I am still hoping the current oil mess will improve, but perhaps this time it will not.
#4674 of 6098 Anybody remember... by lemko Feb 29, 2008 (8:27 am)
...the television ads for the Lincoln Town Car with people getting their C-body GM cars confused when the valet fetched their cars in front of the fancy restaurant?   "No, that's my Buick Park Avenue!" "No it's not, it's my Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight!" "You're both wrong! It's my Cadillac DeVille!" Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:34 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) and 1 more... xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:35 am) lemko (Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am) circlew (Feb 29, 2008 2:25 pm)
#4675 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [lemko] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:34 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 8:27 am) That was a bogus advertisement though, because the Deville was completely different from the Buick and Olds. The Buick and Olds were very similar from the side. Replies to this message: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4676 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [lemko] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (8:35 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 8:27 am) Yep, sure do!   I'm not going to bend over backwards to defend those cars, but they were sort of a victim of timing....they were designed with the expectation that gas would be $2 or $3 a gallon, which didn't happen until 20 years later.... Replies to this message: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am) circlew (Feb 29, 2008 2:25 pm)
#4677 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [sls002] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (8:40 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:34 am) That was a bogus advertisement though, because the Deville was completely different from the Buick and Olds. The Buick and Olds were very similar from the side.   Yeah, I'm sure a Ford LTD (Crown Vic) and a Mercury Grand Marquis from that era also looked a lot alike (they still do...)   But, hey, it was a very effective ad...we still remember it 20, 25 years later... Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4678 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [xhe518] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:53 am)
Replying to: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) The roof lines of the C-bodies in the 70's and early 80's were very similar for Olds, Buick and the Devilles. The early 90's Buick Park Avenue, Olds 98 and Deville roofs were three distinctly different looks. Replies to this message: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4679 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [sls002] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (9:09 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) The roof lines of the C-bodies in the 70's and early 80's were very similar for Olds, Buick and the Devilles. The early 90's Buick Park Avenue, Olds 98 and Deville roofs were three distinctly different looks.   Yeah, the Buick and Olds used the same doors and roof, which limited styling differences to the grille and tail-lights basically. The 98 and Park Ave had the vertical rear glass, the 88 and LeSabre had the slightly raked rear glass.
#4680 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [xhe518] by lemko Feb 29, 2008 (9:55 am)
Replying to: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:35 am) Funny, I'm benefitting from that poor timing 20 years later with my 1988 Buick Park Avenue. I've gotta admit, the styling is a bit nondescript, but it actually is a pretty decent car that delivers great fuel economy. Funny how I hated the FWD C-Bodies 20 years ago. Replies to this message: circlew (Feb 29, 2008 2:25 pm)
#4681 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [lemko] by circlew Feb 29, 2008 (2:25 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am) MY mom has a 2001 BPA and gets 24-25 MPG on the highay and the interior is as big as my Dad's old '84 Fleetwood. That car got in the teens.   You see, my family had many Caddys and Buicks. The problem is they are pretty boring cars IMO anymore than they were in the past. The BGN comes to mind for blast from the past. I remember when I didn't have a license and the teens back in the '60's burnt the tires of those real Caddy's for at least 60 feet from the torque from those great engines off a power brake. The steel on the body was bullet proof and the interiors were first class. Little by little, that went away.   By the time I had enough money to buy a Caddy, I decided on a 1988 Lincoln Mark VII. Great car. No Caddy in '88 did it for me. I also had a 2003 Lincoln LSC.   And so it goes....today, a BMW. Tomorrow, who knows? I still can't get past that edgy CTS.   Regards, OW

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