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#4669 of 6098 Re: You got it backwards... [lemko] by circlew Feb 29, 2008 (3:54 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 28, 2008 6:33 pm) I am the first one that hopes GM continue with cars like the CTS. My gut tells me don't hold my breath. When history keeps repeating itself ad nauseum, you become sick of being sick! As the dollar bleeds vs. global currencies, it's a perfect time to gain market share. Looking at the timing, GM never seems to get it right!   There should be tons of CTS and Enclaves on the lots to choose from. Instead, I see tons of Lexus, BMW and Mercs. Anyone get the same feeling here?   Regards, OW Replies to this message: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 5:44 am) sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:22 am)
#4672 of 6098 Re: You got it backwards... [circlew] by lemko Feb 29, 2008 (5:44 am)
Replying to: circlew (Feb 29, 2008 3:54 am) I believe they will. They can't do otherwise. Cadillac's comeback is a long arduous road. I believe it began as far back as 1989 when they lengthened the diminutive FWD C-bodies to the point they at least looked presentable. Then the 1992 Seville and Eldorado really got the ball rolling. Then the Northstar V-8, the 1998-2003 generation Seville, the Escalade, the first CTS, and now the second-generation CTS. I believe their next step should be a RWD/AWD DTS or DTS replacement.   Now, I'm aware of the FWD layout in my DTS. Why did I choose it instead of the RWD/AWD CTS or STS? Well, first of all, I wanted a car close to the size of my former 2002 STS. Second, the AWD drivetrain would've been very expensive. Third, the FWD layout comes in very handy in the winter. I haven't the need to purchase snow tires since I bought my first FWD Cadillac in 1994. Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:22 am)
#4673 of 6098 Re: You got it backwards... [lemko] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:22 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 5:44 am) I think that the FWD 85-87? Deville styling was not good. On the other hand the 86 Seville was very good, but looked very similar to the smaller GM cars like the Grand Am. The Seville's dashboard, designed for electronic displays, was not good looking. The 85 Buick Electra/Park_Avenue styling was also not great. GM was concerned about reducing weight and improving fuel economy at the time, not thinking that oil prices would collapse. I am still hoping the current oil mess will improve, but perhaps this time it will not.
#4674 of 6098 Anybody remember... by lemko Feb 29, 2008 (8:27 am)
...the television ads for the Lincoln Town Car with people getting their C-body GM cars confused when the valet fetched their cars in front of the fancy restaurant?   "No, that's my Buick Park Avenue!" "No it's not, it's my Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight!" "You're both wrong! It's my Cadillac DeVille!" Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:34 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) and 1 more... xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:35 am) lemko (Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am) circlew (Feb 29, 2008 2:25 pm)
#4675 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [lemko] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:34 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 8:27 am) That was a bogus advertisement though, because the Deville was completely different from the Buick and Olds. The Buick and Olds were very similar from the side. Replies to this message: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4676 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [lemko] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (8:35 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 8:27 am) Yep, sure do!   I'm not going to bend over backwards to defend those cars, but they were sort of a victim of timing....they were designed with the expectation that gas would be $2 or $3 a gallon, which didn't happen until 20 years later.... Replies to this message: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 9:55 am) circlew (Feb 29, 2008 2:25 pm)
#4677 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [sls002] by xhe518 Feb 29, 2008 (8:40 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:34 am) That was a bogus advertisement though, because the Deville was completely different from the Buick and Olds. The Buick and Olds were very similar from the side.   Yeah, I'm sure a Ford LTD (Crown Vic) and a Mercury Grand Marquis from that era also looked a lot alike (they still do...)   But, hey, it was a very effective ad...we still remember it 20, 25 years later... Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 29, 2008 8:53 am) xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)
#4678 of 6098 Re: Anybody remember... [xhe518] by sls002 Feb 29, 2008 (8:53 am)
Replying to: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 8:40 am) The roof lines of the C-bodies in the 70's and early 80's were very similar for Olds, Buick and the Devilles. The early 90's Buick Park Avenue, Olds 98 and Deville roofs were three distinctly different looks. Replies to this message: xhe518 (Feb 29, 2008 9:09 am)

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