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Re: You got it backwards... [xhe518]
by lemko
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Feb 28, 2008 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: xhe518 (Feb 28, 2008 12:58 pm)
I was a junior in college when the downsized FWD Cadillac DeVilles and Fleetwoods debuted. I had always loved Cadillacs, but I really feared that I had nothing to which I could look forward to purchasing after I graduated. Thank God, GM was smart enough to keep the big RWD Brougham. If Cadillac kept building cars like the 1985 FWD C-bodies, the Cimmaron, and the radically downsized Eldos and Sevilles, I doubt very much I'd be driving a Cadillac today. In fact, I doubt very much Cadillac would still exist.
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Re: You got it backwards... [lemko]
by circlew
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Feb 29, 2008 (3:54 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 28, 2008 6:33 pm)
I am the first one that hopes GM continue with cars like the CTS. My gut tells me don't hold my breath. When history keeps repeating itself ad nauseum, you become sick of being sick! As the dollar bleeds vs. global currencies, it's a perfect time to gain market share. Looking at the timing, GM never seems to get it right!
There should be tons of CTS and Enclaves on the lots to choose from. Instead, I see tons of Lexus, BMW and Mercs. Anyone get the same feeling here?
Regards,
OW
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Re: You got it backwards... [circlew]
by lemko
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Feb 29, 2008 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 29, 2008 3:54 am)
I believe they will. They can't do otherwise. Cadillac's comeback is a long arduous road. I believe it began as far back as 1989 when they lengthened the diminutive FWD C-bodies to the point they at least looked presentable. Then the 1992 Seville and Eldorado really got the ball rolling. Then the Northstar V-8, the 1998-2003 generation Seville, the Escalade, the first CTS, and now the second-generation CTS. I believe their next step should be a RWD/AWD DTS or DTS replacement.
Now, I'm aware of the FWD layout in my DTS. Why did I choose it instead of the RWD/AWD CTS or STS? Well, first of all, I wanted a car close to the size of my former 2002 STS. Second, the AWD drivetrain would've been very expensive. Third, the FWD layout comes in very handy in the winter. I haven't the need to purchase snow tires since I bought my first FWD Cadillac in 1994.
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Re: You got it backwards... [lemko]
by sls002
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Feb 29, 2008 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 5:44 am)
I think that the FWD 85-87? Deville styling was not good. On the other hand the 86 Seville was very good, but looked very similar to the smaller GM cars like the Grand Am. The Seville's dashboard, designed for electronic displays, was not good looking. The 85 Buick Electra/Park_Avenue styling was also not great. GM was concerned about reducing weight and improving fuel economy at the time, not thinking that oil prices would collapse. I am still hoping the current oil mess will improve, but perhaps this time it will not.
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Anybody remember...
by lemko
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Feb 29, 2008 (8:27 am)
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...the television ads for the Lincoln Town Car with people getting their C-body GM cars confused when the valet fetched their cars in front of the fancy restaurant?
"No, that's my Buick Park Avenue!" "No it's not, it's my Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight!" "You're both wrong! It's my Cadillac DeVille!"
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Re: Anybody remember... [lemko]
by sls002
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Feb 29, 2008 (8:34 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 8:27 am)
That was a bogus advertisement though, because the Deville was completely different from the Buick and Olds. The Buick and Olds were very similar from the side.
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Re: Anybody remember... [lemko]
by xhe518
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Feb 29, 2008 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 29, 2008 8:27 am)
Yep, sure do!
I'm not going to bend over backwards to defend those cars, but they were sort of a victim of timing....they were designed with the expectation that gas would be $2 or $3 a gallon, which didn't happen until 20 years later....
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