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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 27, 2008 7:27 pm) What difference does it make? I own a 2001 BMW 330i, not an 80s BMW. My car is 2 generations removed from the 3-series cars of the 1980s. Your question doesn't make sense. I have a great deal of respect for the Cadillac brand. The Caddies of the 50s & 60s were magnificent cars. Consider the '57 Sedan de Ville, for example, or the '64 Coupe de Ville. Beautiful cars. The '67 & '68 Eldorados are simply drop-dead gorgeous. So I'm no Cadillac basher. But after '73, Cadillac lost its way. If you were a Cadillac marketing manager & you had to develop an ad campaign that tied the new CTS to the one of the great Cadillacs of the past, which car would you pick? A timeless beauty from the 50s or 60s or one of the rolling bathtubs from the 80s? |
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 27, 2008 2:24 pm) Nope. I firmly believe that the only wood which belongs in a car should be a structural part of the body, and I think that only Morgan still builds them that way. Putting an overvarnished strip of whatever on the dash is silly, and putting a plastic strip of pretend whatever on the dash is simply shameful. |
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 27, 2008 7:39 pm) That proves everthing! I do not look at cars buy the status of the owner...good grief, Batman! Here is a 1980 Merc 450 for sale with 105K miles for $10,500  Here is a picture a 1980 FWB (my dad owned the same color in 1984)...nice but the slowest car on the road and turn-in of a water buffalo. I wonder how much one would sell for today? By the end of the '80's Caddy had lost all of it's luster IMO. The point is Caddy was great during a long past era and now it's not. Period. The end. Along the way, others have eaten their breakfast, lunch AND dinner! Regards, OW
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Replying to: jimbres (Feb 27, 2008 8:00 pm) I couldn't even get a CTS at the time as my dealership was sold out. Funny thing is, as I was closing the deal on my DTS, a woman comes in almost frantic asking if they had a CTS. Looks like Caddy's got a hit! Sometimes I wonder if I should've got a CTS as well? It's a bit too small for my tastes, but I really love what they've done with it. Trouble is, by the time I got a CTS outfitted to my tastes, I'd have probably spent as much or more for it than my loaded top-of-the-line DTS. |
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 27, 2008 7:39 pm) Nothing significant from Germany? Only little gadgets like fuel injection, ABS, large scale production of airbags, crumple zones, workable ergonomics, dual circuit brakes, the list goes on. Crude and primitive? The S-class cars since the W111 and especially the W126 were the most advanced sedans in the world when they were introduced. The 107 and 129 SL cars were also very advanced, hence how they have aged gracefully while most of their counterparts looked ancient after a few years. Don't ask for pics when the pics you provide are innacurate and irrelevant.
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 28, 2008 5:51 am) |
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 28, 2008 6:20 am) What about the STS? Pretty much the same car as your old Seville except for being RWD, and you could probably have worked a good deal on a leftover '07.
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Replying to: lemko (Feb 28, 2008 6:20 am) About 6 years ago, I spotted a mint '96 STS in a local dealer's lot. Dark green, with tan leather interior, as I recall, & with only 30K miles on the clock. Asking price was in the mid to upper teens. I was smitten, so I tried to sell the Seville to my wife as a railroad station car. (At the time, an old Taurus was pulling this duty; I've never liked leaving the BMW at the station.) Sad to say, the STS was gone by the time my wife signed off on the deal. What a disappointment. |
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Replying to: bumpy (Feb 28, 2008 7:20 am)
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