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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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#4583 of 6098 Re: Longer? [pmc4] by cooterbfd Feb 25, 2008 (4:46 pm)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 25, 2008 4:13 pm) I think it's a message that was also Hollywood reinforced; Caddys and Lincolns were for gangsters, REAL people who made REAL money went for imports.   Now, I'm not saying that GM and Caddy didn't have their issues in the late '70's and early to mid '80's, as they did, but from those pictures, boy do the Germans interiors look dated and cheap. The Caddy's, while dated still look luxurious and plush.   Last year, Car&Driver did a road "race" of early '80's diesels: They took an '82 Maxima, an '82 Olds 88 coupe and a '83 Mercedes and ran them from Michigan to California. I believe the Olds ran flawlessly, got the best fuel economy, and got there first. Then they auctioned them off on EBAY and I believe they gotr the most for the Olds.
#4584 of 6098 OK, so I was off a little.... by cooterbfd Feb 25, 2008 (4:56 pm)
....but here's the article to read:   http://caranddriver.com/features/all/2006/battle_of_the_diesel_beaters_feature/(- page)/1
#4585 of 6098 Re: More 80's import crap... [pmc4] by jimbres Feb 25, 2008 (5:53 pm)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 25, 2008 4:20 pm) All very interesting. But what does any of this have to do with the 2008 CTS?
#4586 of 6098 Re: Longer? [pmc4] by lemko Feb 25, 2008 (6:00 pm)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 25, 2008 4:13 pm) The bottom picture is a 1988 Cadillac Brougham d'Elegance. I have the 1989 "regular" Brougham with a more muted seat pattern. Still, I dig that button-tufted look. I had a 1985 Chrysler Fifth Avenue with a button-tufted red leather interior. I sold it to my brother almost 15 years ago and he's still driving it. Yet another great 1980s domestic car! Replies to this message: pmc4 (Feb 26, 2008 3:49 pm) bumpy (Feb 26, 2008 7:39 pm)
#4587 of 6098 Real Cadillacs by bumpy Feb 25, 2008 (6:26 pm)
#4588 of 6098 Re: Longer? [pmc4] by fintail Feb 25, 2008 (8:45 pm)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 25, 2008 4:13 pm) Nice Caddy seats...just don't take a corner at more than 10mph, or you will fall out of the car   I don't know about your new MB pic either. It's not an E-class, it's a W126 S-class. There's no such thing as a 1988 ES300 (if you mean a 300SE, it stickered at about 50K - I owned one of these cars), and the car pictured appears to have a non-airbag steering wheel, which means it is either a non-North American market car, or it is from before 1985. Air was standard on all MB W126 sold in North America (and the pic you show appears to actually have AC), so the point isn't well taken. Nearly all MB (and every W126) of this period also had power windows, and I suspect 99% of people couldn't tell MB-tex from leather to begin with. The point?   The stereo in that pic is also not aftermarket, that's a Becker Grand Prix, standard in all NA-spec W126 and optional elsewhere. The switches shown are all for standard equipment - the optional switches (heated seats, 2-tone horn) were on the console.   For the Caddy...a nice traditional car...but not everyone is into that kind of thing if they like to drive for fun. Replies to this message: pmc4 (Feb 26, 2008 3:57 pm) fintail (Feb 26, 2008 5:56 pm) bumpy (Feb 26, 2008 7:45 pm) pmc4 (Feb 27, 2008 2:24 pm) and 1 more...
#4589 of 6098 Re: Longer? [lemko] by fintail Feb 25, 2008 (8:50 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 25, 2008 10:35 am) Probably more than you ever wanted to see
#4590 of 6098 Re: Longer? [steve_] by fintail Feb 25, 2008 (8:54 pm)
Replying to: steve_ (Feb 25, 2008 10:37 am) Nice   It'd be cool to see a study of weird foreign interpretations of fins, which lasted for about a decade after they became passe in the US
#4591 of 6098 Just wondering by steve_ HOST Feb 25, 2008 (8:55 pm)
Anyone care to opine whether GM can make Caddy the world standard again? I mean, I enjoyed the 80's too, but what have they done for me lately?   (glad you liked 'em Fin). Replies to this message: circlew (Feb 26, 2008 4:35 am) sls002 (Feb 26, 2008 7:22 am)
#4592 of 6098 Re: Just wondering [steve_] by circlew Feb 26, 2008 (4:35 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Feb 25, 2008 8:55 pm) GM CAN make Caddy the standard of the world...if they keep buying foreign companies like Holden who know how to produce excellence (remember THAT motto??). Can't....err, do not want it enough yet as I see it. There is some indication that pot is boiling but I remain skeptical.   Good values as sofas on wheels, however. Sadly, the top luxury benchmarks remain overseas.   Regards, OW

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