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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: bumpy (Feb 25, 2008 10:02 am) I'd love to find a mint late 560SEL in diamond blue with creme interior and stock chrome wheels. I'd really be tempted. |
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 25, 2008 10:28 am) |
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Replying to: fintail (Feb 25, 2008 10:29 am)
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Replying to: fintail (Feb 25, 2008 10:29 am) FINS! exhibition at the AACA Museum (Straightline) Well, even if you missed the blog about it, you probably knew about it anyway. More on topic, there's a nod to Harley Earl and the 1948 Cadillac there. Of course, there's only one car inside the Edmunds offices, and that's a 49 Caddy Fleetwood. (that link opens up a video tour of the office, so mind your speakers).
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Replying to: steve_ (Feb 25, 2008 10:37 am) 
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 25, 2008 10:28 am) Not a Caddy on it. Go figure. Well that's a relief! Doesn't help the other issues over the years that helped drive down sales loss to the competition, though. Things may change but for now, we are where we are. The Escalade is the benchmark for a Suburban tank, IMHO. The CTS is a great start. Ya gotta start somewhere! Now, if they can refine the CTS further (STS/SRX goes bye-bye as I have read) drop the pick-up, add a CUV, fortify the DTS, enliven the XLR and add a 1-series-class entry candidate with real world class (read youth here) appeal and performance for all of them, we will see a very different organization. In the meantime, look to the competition to continually change the playing field. Cadillac either continues to make massive change or goes the way of Oldsmobubble. Remember them??  Regards, OW
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 25, 2008 7:55 am) I think Olds is the LAST place you'll find Caddy heading |
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Replying to: fintail (Feb 24, 2008 6:40 pm) I'd be interested to know the TRUE story behind that old BMW too. Pic #3 appears to be a Legend coupe from the early 90s. The seats are infinitely better looking, and I suspect it is a better drive." Why not just say, "OK, PMC , your pictures do indicate that maybe we're wrong. Maybe we are being too easily fooled into the establishment when the establishment tells us that GM cars of the 80's were crap. Maybe we should start thinking for ourselves and stop listening to automotive journalists when they incorrectly critisize 1980's GM. "After all, you proved that the very car the automotive journalists espoused (80's BMW; 80's Mercedes Benz) really was crap with manual roll-up windows, cheap seating surfaces, a ride as comfortable as a metropolitan transit bus and the smell of fuel eminating from an obnoxiously loud OHC engie that got like 120 horsepower. "In fact, what were we thinking? In retrospect, I can't figure out for the life of me what made us actually like those annoying, primitive, nasty little cars with their manual transmissions sticking out of the floorboards..." Here's a mid-80's Mercedes Benz E-Class, showing WWII-era switchgear, wood inserts that look like plywood, and no air conditioning, stereo (the stereo shown is aftermarket) and optional swithches (probably for options like lights, turn signals, fuel gauge, etc). This was the car the automotive community said was better than 1980's Cadillacs:  Here's the interior that the automobile journalists said was less luxurious and lower in quality than the Mercedes Benz shown above. Please note that Crack Cocaine was an epidemic in this country at about the time these journalists were making these claims:   The 1944 Er, 1988 Mercedes Benz ES 300 shown above cost $45,000. The 1988 Cadillac shown above cost $32,000. ...Only now are we beginning to see that the automobile journalist of the time had a hidden agenda... . |
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Acura Legend from 1991. A good car, but the establishment at that time was saying this was the best car. And saying the Cadillac was the worst car. Bear in mind that the crack cocaine epidemic in this country was still plaguing our people. Not only that, but crystal methamphetamine was now on the rise:  Cadillac ElDorado interior, circa 1990:   I wasn't going to show this because it's an embarrasmant to the import fanboys, but I have to because I did show the Caddy interior:  Acura Legend, 1991. Notice the puffy, Michelin man-inspired seatig surfaces. Not nearly as clean as the Cadillac, either.
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 25, 2008 4:13 pm) Of course, a scant two years later some tarted-up Toyota would come along and obliterate them both. 
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