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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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#4552 of 6098 Re: Longer? [bumpy] by circlew Feb 25, 2008 (4:36 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Feb 24, 2008 7:08 pm) Now that pmc4 brought back my nightmares of the '80's Caddy, I am cured. Despite having some good experiences with the marquee, I would think the irony is during the 80's, the Standard of the World was hardy the description for the top division of GM. Did market share slide for despite this so-called world standard???   I feel free again because I am letting it go! No use crying over junk again.   Let's look at 2008, shall we? Which manufacturer closely emulates Standard of the World today? I would venture only a few would think Cadillac in the present moment.   Regards, OW
#4553 of 6098 Re: All that being said [pmc4] by lemko Feb 25, 2008 (4:40 am)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 11:01 am) Did you ever notice that French cars use yellow bulbs? French ads for Peugeots, Renaults, and Citroens show the cars illuminated headlamps with an intense yellow glow. Is this madated by law in France? Replies to this message: bumpy (Feb 24, 2008 11:53 pm)
#4554 of 6098 Ask the Man Who Owns One by lemko Feb 25, 2008 (4:53 am)
I have a 1989 Cadillac Brougham with over 157K miles on it. The car still looks and runs excellent. I bought it new, have taken excellent care of it, and never had to put much into it as far as major repairs. I also have a 1988 Buick Park Avenue that I drive just about every day. Aside from bad paint on the top surfaces, the car is still extremely reliable. So much for those awful '80s GM cars. Replies to this message: circlew (Feb 25, 2008 6:00 am) cooterbfd (Feb 25, 2008 9:12 am) lemko (Feb 25, 2008 4:32 am) and 7 more... circlew (Feb 25, 2008 9:38 am)
#4555 of 6098 Re: All that being said [lemko] by bumpy Feb 24, 2008 (11:53 pm)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 25, 2008 4:40 am) The yellow light is better for foggy conditions, and it used to be mandated in France but now it's only optional for fog lights.
#4556 of 6098 Re: Longer? [pmc4] by lemko Feb 25, 2008 (4:56 am)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 5:16 pm) My ladyfriend had a Cadillac similar to the DeVille pictured at the bottom. Her car was a 1992 model in a nice dark red metallic with a red leather interior. I later bought a new 1994 DeVille in Carmine Red with the Parchment interior. Both were great cars with the 4.9 V-8.
#4557 of 6098 Re: I Give UP [cooterbfd] by lemko Feb 25, 2008 (5:01 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 24, 2008 6:26 pm) Shoot, I love the 3800 engine. It is a good engine in my 1988 Park Avenue and a good engine in my girlfriend's 2005 LaCrosse. It's a very fuel-efficient engine which is very important in these days of high-cost fuel. Heck, I've been driving my old Park Ave just about every day and am enjoying the fuel savings and the still decent performance of this old-school mill. I sure will miss it.
#4558 of 6098 Re: Longer? [fintail] by lemko Feb 25, 2008 (5:07 am)
Replying to: fintail (Feb 24, 2008 6:34 pm) If any car was THE car to own back in the 1980s, it was the W126 S-Class. I did look at a 1989 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL, but it was WAY out of my price range at $73,990 - more than double that of the Cadillac Brougham. I still wouldn't mind having a low-mileage example. I heard the "Baby Benz" was a car to be avoided. Don't know how well the E-Class held up over time, but I still see a lot of the S-Classes.   Even I can't defend the 1986 Seville. It was this car and the shrunken 1985 FWD C-body DeVille/Fleetwood and Eldorado that really made me fear for Cadillac's future. Thank God, GM was smart enough to keep building the Cadillac Brougham. I don't know what I'd be driving today if Cadillac back then was stupid enough to ditch the Brougham. I guess I'd have settled for a Lincoln Town Car or a Chrysler Fifth Avenue in lieu of a Caddy. Replies to this message: fintail (Feb 25, 2008 8:32 am) bumpy (Feb 25, 2008 10:02 am) fintail (Feb 25, 2008 10:29 am) and 5 more...
#4559 of 6098 Re: I Give UP [pmc4] by 62vetteefp Feb 25, 2008 (12:54 am)
Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 5:02 pm) Our Enclave has the back up camera as do other GM products.
#4560 of 6098 Re: Ask the Man Who Owns One [lemko] by circlew Feb 25, 2008 (6:00 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 25, 2008 4:53 am) I am glad you had good service from your Cadillacs.   Here is a list of World Class companies who have won Best Engine categories.   Guess which country's auto manufacturers are not on the list?   link title   Perhaps the new CTS V-6 will show in 2008. Perhaps not.   Regards, OW Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Feb 25, 2008 9:12 am) lemko (Feb 25, 2008 4:32 am) circlew (Feb 25, 2008 9:42 am) and 1 more... circlew (Feb 25, 2008 10:00 am) and 4 more... circlew (Feb 25, 2008 9:38 am)
#4561 of 6098 Re: Longer? [lemko] by fintail Feb 25, 2008 (8:32 am)
Replying to: lemko (Feb 25, 2008 5:07 am) The W126 was grossly expensive...but there seems to have been a lot of money floating around in the 80s, as every example brought over was sold with little hassle. It is this car from the import competition that really hurt Caddy - I believe some of Caddy's higher line buyers jumped ship and never came back (now they buy Lexus). They traded a little of the cush for amazing engineering and world beating handling for a car of the size. It occupied the top of the mass market, something Caddy might have had 20+ years before. I too wouldn't mind having a nice low mileage one...it's tempting to ditch the car payment and just find a mint 560SEL.   The 190E was kind of a yuppie leasemobile of the time - it wasn't meant to be a real luxury competitor. The 35 year old professional of 1986 was never going to touch a Seville anyway. The 190 wasn't a horrible car, but not as overdone as some others. The old E-class is a very solid car. Every day out here I see at least a couple early E-class and W126. These are cars that can look very decent even at 300K+ miles.   What was production of the Brougham after 1987 or so? Replies to this message: bumpy (Feb 25, 2008 10:02 am) fintail (Feb 25, 2008 10:29 am) lemko (Feb 25, 2008 10:35 am) and 1 more... steve_ (Feb 25, 2008 10:37 am) and 2 more...

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