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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: I Give UP [lykourinou] by pmc4
Feb 24, 2008 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 20, 2008 1:44 pm)

Why is it that the import fanboys say that their Japanese hi-end imports have a back-up camera? I mean, Consumer Reports was making the $70,000 Lexus LS460 sound as advanced as a NASA prototype the way they were talking about the back-up camera feature on the Lexus. They, being import fanboys as well, say the same thing about these back-up cameras in Acura and Infiniti products, too. It's like a typical CR review will say, "If GM doesn't get around to offering this very expensive but very necessary back-up camera feature, they're going to be in more do-do than they are now. Quit ceding these technological marvels to Japan, GM!"
 
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Re: Longer? [62vetteefp] by pmc4
Feb 24, 2008 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Feb 24, 2008 5:01 pm)

The third car has to be the 1990 Mercedes Benz 190E. This turd both looks and stinks like a diesel. It's also powered like one, but it's not. It's a manual-shifted I4 engine inside a car that the America-haters actually thought was a better car than the 1986 Cadillac Seville:
 

 
WHAT A PATHETIC PIECE OF CRAP! And to think people actually shelled out like over $20 grand for this turd!!!
Below is a true class act: Far more car for about the same amount of money:
 
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Re: I Give UP [lykourinou] by pmc4
Feb 24, 2008 (12:26 pm)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 20, 2008 2:02 pm)

I agree with you, lykourinou I also refuse to pay full price for outdated technology. Here's what you said:
 
"Just talking to these guys in here helped me to realize, that GM wont' change. I refuse to pay full price for outdated technology."
 
That means I have to scratch any Honda product off my shopping list. It's like the only engine they offer is a cheap, old SOHC V6 that has seen service since like the early nineties. This engine doesn't even offer VVT on the exhaust cam, for crying out loud! I think even Daewoo is now making engines more sophisticated than Honda.
And what about Honda's ONLY automatic transmission? Yep! It's a clunky old five-speed unit that hasn't had a major upgrade in over 15 years! You know Honda is still offering ancient transmissions that even the Koreans were offering last century when the only transmission the car company has is a clunky, wheezy 5-speed auto.
 
HONDA DRIVETRAINS DON'T BELONG IN CARS THEY BELONG IN THE SMITHSONIAN!
 
I refuse to pay full price for outdated technology. I refuse to buy Honda.
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Re: All that being said [lykourinou] by pmc4
Feb 24, 2008 (5:40 pm)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 20, 2008 5:28 pm)

Of course you're not being funny. I understand perfectly your desire to buy an Escalade and there's a good reason why it's outselling the Lexus, Acura and Infiniti SUV's combined. This is just one reason why the rich 'n famous are sending their $$$ downrange to their local Cadillac dealers:
 

 
Lexus looks OK, but still no match for the Cadillac despite the slightly higher MSRP. Notice the cheap assembly quality at the base of the glovebox where it meets the dashboard kickplate. The inconsistent padding between driver and passenger seating surfaces isn't looking too good, either. A higher resolution photo reveals even more cheapness and crappy quality:
 

 
As we can see, once again we're being told lies from the establishment.
LEXUS/TOYOTA, FIX YOUR QUALITY ISSUES OR SUFFER THE SAME FATE AS THE YUGO!!!
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Re: I Give UP [pmc4] by cooterbfd
Feb 24, 2008 (6:26 pm)
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 4:04 pm)

OH, GREAT POSTS!!!
 
BTW, I was being faceitious. I agree- there is nothing wrong with an OHV engine. I find it hillarious, and quite hypocritical of people who say OHV is outdated, yet it's OK for a pickup or the Corvette. I know that Caddy never used it, and this new 3.6 liter V-6 is drawing rave reviews, but the old 3800 Buick V-6 is a tried and true engine, and I'll be sad to see it go. I wish they could've done more with it.
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Re: Longer? [pmc4] by fintail
Feb 24, 2008 (6:34 pm)
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 5:16 pm)

The pic you post is of a low spec Euro model never sold in the US, with a non-stock steering wheel, almost never seen with a manual on this continent.
 
Funny thing is the cheapo 4cyl W201 is probably worth more than that old Deville on the used car market, and certainly worth more than a 1986 Seville. A bustleback is worth more too.
 
And of course, the W201 was never meant to be anything more than the lowest level of entry lux - in Europe it was usually too small to even be a taxi. Not a competitor to Caddy, nobody cross-shopped a Deville and a 190E. The period E-class and S-class are the cars that schooled the competition.
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Re: Longer? [pmc4] by fintail
Feb 24, 2008 (6:40 pm)
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 4:34 pm)

I suspect that Caddy photo with its ridiculous seats is from when the car was new . That thin unappealing steering wheel looks like a creation of a 7 year old, and the dash looks like a version of the one on my mother's old Ciera that cost less than half the money back in the day - only with primitive digital displays that weren't exactly 100% reliable.
 
I'd be interested to know the TRUE story behind that old BMW too.
 
Pic #3 appears to be a Legend coupe from the early 90s. The seats are infinitely better looking, and I suspect it is a better drive.
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Re: All that being said [pmc4] by bumpy
Feb 24, 2008 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 11:01 am)

There's no "lower temperature" bulbs
 
http://www.autolamps-online.com/hidonline/information/whatiscolourtemp.htm
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Re: Longer? [pmc4] by bumpy
Feb 24, 2008 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: pmc4 (Feb 24, 2008 4:34 pm)

The BMW interior didn't have much going for it, but at least the car was built and drove well. The Cadillac had an equally hideous interior, and awful build quality and handling. The Acura did have a nice interior, and superlative-for-the-80s ride and build quality. Sorry, but GM's premium marque became "Crapillac" for a reason.
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Re: Longer? [62vetteefp] by bumpy
Feb 24, 2008 (7:08 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Feb 24, 2008 5:01 pm)

What is the 3rd car?
 
First-gen ('86-'90) Acura Legend. In his zeal to whitewash Cadillac's shame, he forgot that the first Legend had as much horsepower as a full-sized Caddy and weighed about a thousand pounds less.

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