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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: I Give UP [circlew] by lykourinou
Feb 20, 2008 (2:02 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 20, 2008 12:46 pm)

Hey, what about me? I gave up on GM
 
As of today I have offiically given up on them I wanted to get my mom a full sized SUV. I have decided on the QX, just talking to these guys in here helped me to realize, that GM wont' change. I refuse to pay full price for outdated technology. Besides the reveiws on the Escalade are horrible, I was literally ignoring them. Hoping that GM would turn it around and offer what other manufacturers offer, most consumers have been burned. Sucked in by the looks and left broken hearted due to mechanical failure.. If we built cars that way we build weapons....we would have an owner loyalty, a hundred times stronger than Toyota or Nissan.
 
I'll be hanging out in the Infiniti forums.....
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All that being said by lykourinou
Feb 20, 2008 (5:28 pm)
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I know of all that I have said about the lade and GM's committment to quality. That being said, if GM incorporates a DOHC V8 and an independent rear end, including the implementation of STANDARD power fold flat 3rd row seats AND IMPROVE ON QUALITY I would gladly purchase an Escalade. Even in all it's glory due to ride height the LX570 does not have HID lights....that is pretty bad for a 74k SUV. I love HID driving at night is alot better for me, and I have to hand it to GM the Vette and the Escalade do have some of the best HID I have seen. I'm not being funny either...
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Re: All that being said [lykourinou] by circlew
Feb 21, 2008 (4:03 am)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 20, 2008 5:28 pm)

I have to hand it to GM the Vette and the Escalade do have some of the best HID I have seen. I'm not being funny either...
 
That's what always frustrates at GM...every once in a while they do really good things in the midst of the usual games.
 
BTW, the wallet ripping on the imports is mainly due to the U.S. auto companies themselves. High costs have driven their quality and profits down so their cars, including Cadillac ARE NOT the Gold Standard of the world. Yes, the cars do not break as much but the craftsmanship and quality of parts/materials is inferior.
 
Can they be the standard? Only if the desire is there. Do I have faith it will happen? Not really. The competition has a HUGE lead and the desire is in spurts and dies.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: I Give UP [lykourinou] by cooterbfd
Feb 21, 2008 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 20, 2008 2:02 pm)

Well, how about paying full price for THIS technology:
 
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080221/COL14/802210312/1015/BU- SINESS02
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Re: I Give UP [cooterbfd] by 62vetteefp
Feb 21, 2008 (11:49 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 21, 2008 9:15 am)

Why the heck would I ever buy a full size SUV that gets 26 mpg when it lacks the push start button the competition has? Come on. If I have the money for a top line SUV damn the gas. I can suck every last gallon while I push the start button.
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Re: All that being said [lykourinou] by sls002
Feb 21, 2008 (1:55 pm)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 20, 2008 5:28 pm)

My SRX has everything that you want, but the size. I do like the HID lights. They light up both sides of the road so that you can see deer if they are looking to cross in front of you.
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Re: I Give UP [cooterbfd] by lykourinou
Feb 21, 2008 (2:37 pm)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 21, 2008 9:15 am)

I saw on NBC news that they said the cost of the GM Hybrids are not worth it, they recommended the Lexus hybrid instead. Also, Edmunds.com said that the Chevy hybrid is not worth it. I saw the vid review about 2 weeks ago.
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Re: All that being said [sls002] by lykourinou
Feb 21, 2008 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Feb 21, 2008 1:55 pm)

My SRX has everything that you want, but the size. I do like the HID lights. They light up both sides of the road so that you can see deer if they are looking to cross in front of you.
 
I never used to like the SRX at first, but I do like it now. It is a pretty cool SUV. The HID is lovely, Nissan makes some pretty good HID as well I have seen the HID on the new CTS though and it does not look like the HID on other Cadillacs it is almost yellowish
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Re: All that being said [lykourinou] by bumpy
Feb 21, 2008 (3:32 pm)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 21, 2008 2:43 pm)

I think that's the color temperature of the bulbs. The lower temperature has less blue in it.
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Re: All that being said [bumpy] by lykourinou
Feb 21, 2008 (11:32 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Feb 21, 2008 3:32 pm)

I think you are right.

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