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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: . [circlew] by cooterbfd
Feb 18, 2008 (2:48 pm)
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 18, 2008 1:55 pm)

Perhaps Caddy should import a BMW or Merc-based platform to gain ground like they are doing for the G-8 out of Aussie Land.
 
First of all, GM OWNS Holden, and part of GM's restructuring has been to marry these foreign divisions w/ US divisions to streamline the design process, as well as share global platforms to cut costs.
 
What good would striking a deal w/ BMW or Mercedes do. Then people would say Caddy couldn't cut the mustard and had to buy from the Germans to compete w/ them.
I believe the biggest gripe the car mags had w/ the CTS in comparison w/ the 3 series was that it was too big (heavy). But the CTS gives you a 5 series sized car for a 3 series price. Yet they don't think it would be fair to compare the 5 w/ the CTS because the 5 comes w/ equiptment not available on the CTS because of the price difference. So I think it would be fair to say that Caddy gives you the same quality car for the same price as BMW, only the BMW handles better because it's smaller, and the Caddy is more comfortable to ride in because it's bigger. And don't give me any bs about quality, because the Germans have had their fair share of quality bugs as of lately.
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [lykourinou] by jkr2106
Feb 18, 2008 (7:47 pm)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 18, 2008 10:13 am)

Cadillac doesn't even offer that on their Escalade, matter of fact they still use solid rear axles, and OHC engines.
 
OHC...puhleeze. GM/Cadillac would never use such an inferior engine on its flagship SUV. They went with the more potent OHV design.
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Re: . [cooterbfd] by circlew
Feb 19, 2008 (3:39 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 18, 2008 2:48 pm)

Your assessment is fair. I just have a different opinion and until 2008, Caddy wasn't in the same league as the rest of the global luxury leaders let alone the standard. In all areas as previously noted, IMO of course.
 
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OW
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [jkr2106] by lykourinou
Feb 19, 2008 (4:09 am)
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Replying to: jkr2106 (Feb 18, 2008 7:47 pm)

You are funny...tomato....tomatoe...Point is, the rest of the world uses DOHC ENGINES AND INDEPENDENT SUSPENSIONS AND GM DOESN'T. someone needs to let GM know that this is 2008 not 1978.
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Re: . [circlew] by lykourinou
Feb 19, 2008 (4:18 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 19, 2008 3:39 am)

I agree with you, I am disapointed in GM putting the bare minimun in the Escalade ans selling it at the same prices as competitors. GM didn't even put a air filtration system in the new Escalade. Compared to the QX, GL, and Land Rover, people have a clear choice of which SUV not to choose. Hopefully GM will do more with the Escalade in the future.
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Re: . [cooterbfd] by lemko
Feb 19, 2008 (5:45 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 18, 2008 8:16 am)

Wow! Your aunt also has a 1988 Buick Park Avenue? Great car, huh? Unlike today's vehicles, the headlight assembly on the 1988 Buick Park Avenue is actually GLASS and won't fog or yellow with age. I was able to buy a new grille this past December after some idiot backed into the car and cracked it.
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Re: . [cooterbfd] by lemko
Feb 19, 2008 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 18, 2008 2:48 pm)

The only thing that will be jumping is me jumping the Cadillac ship for some other make if they start rebadging unreliable and atrociously expensive Bimmers and Mercs as Cadillacs. At least I can depend on my Cadillacs to get me to work and without a vicious financial wallet-raping.
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [lykourinou] by sls002
Feb 19, 2008 (7:57 am)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 19, 2008 4:09 am)

hold it right there:
My SRX has a DOHC V8 and an independent rear suspension. It also does not have McPherson struts.
 
The Escalade is a rebadged Chevy anyhow and not a real Cadillac.
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [sls002] by circlew
Feb 19, 2008 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Feb 19, 2008 7:57 am)

The Escalade is a rebadged Chevy anyhow and not a real Cadillac.
 
How true it is. Nice for a truck but not the World Standard for SUV's in terms of overall performance, style and luxury.
 
Regards,
OW
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [sls002] by bumpy
Feb 19, 2008 (8:32 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Feb 19, 2008 7:57 am)

It also does not have McPherson struts.
 
Really? I thought the CTS platform was front struts and multilink rear?

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