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Is Cadillac's Image Dying and Does Anyone Care?

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#4492 of 6186 Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [aldw] by lykourinou

Feb 18, 2008 (11:13 am)

Replying to: aldw (Feb 10, 2008 2:51 pm)
Cadillac is still much closer to the German makes in product panache than Infiniti, even with missteps.
 
Cadillac does not have an intelligent key in their Escalade, nor a folding flat 3rd row seat, not even a push button start. Nissan Maximas from 2004 and up have either a push button start or fob to turn to start, without ever using a key (intelligent key). Cadillac doesn't even offer that on their Escalade, matter of fact they still use solid rear axles, and OHC engines. GM will continue to fail unless they meet the build quality of standards of imports, not to mention import luxury manufacturers.

#4493 of 6186 Re: . [circlew] by lykourinou

Feb 18, 2008 (11:15 am)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 11, 2008 9:40 am)
Agreed. The Europeans and Japaneses are much higher in terms of standard luxury/performance/quality
 
Truer words have never been spoken.

#4494 of 6186 And, another thing by carnaught

Feb 18, 2008 (11:20 am)

Cadillac and other GM vehicles still have a way to go in improving interior design and luxury as far as their materials are concerned.
 
The new CTS and revised STS interiors are but a step in the right direction. The ergonomics in Cadillacs have been improving as well.

#4495 of 6186 Re: . [cooterbfd] by circlew

Feb 18, 2008 (2:51 pm)

Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 18, 2008 9:16 am)
I know parts are available...that's not my point.
 
Regards,
OW

#4496 of 6186 Re: . [lykourinou] by circlew

Feb 18, 2008 (2:55 pm)

Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 18, 2008 11:15 am)
Perhaps Caddy should import a BMW or Merc-based platform to gain ground like they are doing for the G-8 out of Aussie Land.
 
That'll give 'em a jump start for sure!
 
Regards,
OW

#4497 of 6186 Re: . [circlew] by cooterbfd

Feb 18, 2008 (3:48 pm)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 18, 2008 2:55 pm)
Perhaps Caddy should import a BMW or Merc-based platform to gain ground like they are doing for the G-8 out of Aussie Land.
 
First of all, GM OWNS Holden, and part of GM's restructuring has been to marry these foreign divisions w/ US divisions to streamline the design process, as well as share global platforms to cut costs.
 
What good would striking a deal w/ BMW or Mercedes do. Then people would say Caddy couldn't cut the mustard and had to buy from the Germans to compete w/ them.
I believe the biggest gripe the car mags had w/ the CTS in comparison w/ the 3 series was that it was too big (heavy). But the CTS gives you a 5 series sized car for a 3 series price. Yet they don't think it would be fair to compare the 5 w/ the CTS because the 5 comes w/ equiptment not available on the CTS because of the price difference. So I think it would be fair to say that Caddy gives you the same quality car for the same price as BMW, only the BMW handles better because it's smaller, and the Caddy is more comfortable to ride in because it's bigger. And don't give me any bs about quality, because the Germans have had their fair share of quality bugs as of lately.

#4498 of 6186 Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [lykourinou] by jkr2106

Feb 18, 2008 (8:47 pm)

Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 18, 2008 11:13 am)
Cadillac doesn't even offer that on their Escalade, matter of fact they still use solid rear axles, and OHC engines.
 
OHC...puhleeze. GM/Cadillac would never use such an inferior engine on its flagship SUV. They went with the more potent OHV design.

#4499 of 6186 Re: . [cooterbfd] by circlew

Feb 19, 2008 (4:39 am)

Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 18, 2008 3:48 pm)
Your assessment is fair. I just have a different opinion and until 2008, Caddy wasn't in the same league as the rest of the global luxury leaders let alone the standard. In all areas as previously noted, IMO of course.
 
Regards,
OW

#4500 of 6186 Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [jkr2106] by lykourinou

Feb 19, 2008 (5:09 am)

Replying to: jkr2106 (Feb 18, 2008 8:47 pm)
You are funny...tomato....tomatoe...Point is, the rest of the world uses DOHC ENGINES AND INDEPENDENT SUSPENSIONS AND GM DOESN'T. someone needs to let GM know that this is 2008 not 1978.

#4501 of 6186 Re: . [circlew] by lykourinou

Feb 19, 2008 (5:18 am)

Replying to: circlew (Feb 19, 2008 4:39 am)
I agree with you, I am disapointed in GM putting the bare minimun in the Escalade ans selling it at the same prices as competitors. GM didn't even put a air filtration system in the new Escalade. Compared to the QX, GL, and Land Rover, people have a clear choice of which SUV not to choose. Hopefully GM will do more with the Escalade in the future.

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