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#4467 of 6098 Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [62vetteefp] by circlew Feb 08, 2008 (5:28 am)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Feb 07, 2008 11:23 am) Small world. It has grown since then. The old trophy does not apply. New standards are set every day and IMO, Cadillac is not near the top.   Regards, OW Replies to this message: lykourinou (Feb 10, 2008 9:00 am) cooterbfd (Feb 10, 2008 12:38 pm) aldw (Feb 10, 2008 1:51 pm) and 18 more... lykourinou (Feb 18, 2008 10:06 am) lemko (Feb 11, 2008 5:55 am)
#4468 of 6098 BMW loaners Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [circlew] by rayainsw Feb 08, 2008 (5:32 am)
Replying to: circlew (Feb 08, 2008 5:21 am) I have read posts of 5 & 7 series drivers loaned a 3. Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Feb 08, 2008 7:06 am)
#4469 of 6098 Re: BMW loaners Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [rayainsw] by 62vetteefp Feb 08, 2008 (7:06 am)
Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 08, 2008 5:32 am) We all know the 3 is a much better car than the 5 or 7. It is just a bit smaller!!
#4470 of 6098 loaner's by sls002 Feb 08, 2008 (7:23 am)
What a particular dealer does about lending customers a car to drive while they are servicing your's will vary from dealer to dealer. One thing that you should understand is that there is risk in lending you a car to drive - if you have an accident your insurance may cover you, but since the car is owned by the dealer, they are at risk too. The other point is that if the service department is working on say about 50 vehicles over a two day period, 50 loaners (Cadillacs) will have a value of perhaps 1 million dollars (used). That is a lot of money to tie up in loaners. Replies to this message: cooterbfd (Feb 08, 2008 8:29 am) louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 9:47 am)
#4471 of 6098 Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [rayainsw] by bumpy Feb 08, 2008 (7:31 am)
Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 07, 2008 9:50 am) I don't think it's unreasonable. I could understand the dealer giving you a Monte Carlo SS if they didn't *have* any Corvettes to loan out, but they should try to give you something reasonably equivalent to what you bring in.   Back when my dad had the E320, the MB dealer usually gave him an Intrepid loaner (the Dodge dealer was on the same lot), which I thought was kind of skeezy of them. There was one time, though, when he had the car in for the third time in two weeks he told them "No, I'll be taking the S-class today." And he did. Replies to this message: sls002 (Feb 08, 2008 7:46 am)
#4472 of 6098 Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [bumpy] by sls002 Feb 08, 2008 (7:46 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Feb 08, 2008 7:31 am) Well I think your point of view is extreme. But if the E320 was breaking down repeatedly, I certainly think that expecting "something" drive is not unreasonable. What would be "reasonable" depends on how the dealer (or salesman) values your business. If you have bought several new E-class cars in the past few years, then keeping you happy is probably worth something.   The issue here is how many people can a dealer keep happy at any point in time. How many "loaner" vehicles must a dealer keep in stock. At something like 100 grand per S-class, there really must be a limit.   By making rental vehicles available at a nominal rate, I think my dealer is doing something. The Suburban rental that I got cost Cadillac $20 per day.
#4473 of 6098 Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [louiswei] by cooterbfd Feb 08, 2008 (8:25 am)
Replying to: louiswei (Feb 07, 2008 9:51 am) Lou, the local MB dealer around here gives you a Corrola for a service loaner. How's that for a slap in the face. At least when my dad brings his Town Car in, they give him an MKZ (I know, not Caddy) My great uncle has his latest DTS for over a year, and they DO give loaner cars (although he has yet to bring it in for unscheduled service ) He is retired, and can afford to wait for the oil changes. Replies to this message: louiswei (Feb 08, 2008 9:51 am) fintail (Feb 08, 2008 9:56 am) laurasdada (Feb 08, 2008 1:58 pm) sls002 (Feb 09, 2008 8:43 am)
#4474 of 6098 Re: loaner's [sls002] by cooterbfd Feb 08, 2008 (8:29 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 08, 2008 7:23 am) Here in RI, the OWNER of the vehicle can be made liable for an accident, even if the car is being borrowed by someone (be careful who you loan your car to here). There was a big hullabaloo over leased cars beacuse of that.
#4475 of 6098 Re: loaner's [sls002] by louiswei Feb 08, 2008 (9:47 am)
Replying to: sls002 (Feb 08, 2008 7:23 am) That's why the dealers ask for a prove of insurance and credit card just in case something happens.
#4476 of 6098 Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [cooterbfd] by louiswei Feb 08, 2008 (9:51 am)
Replying to: cooterbfd (Feb 08, 2008 8:25 am) I think MB dealers are the worst offenders on not supply same brand loaners.   As far as BMW and Lexus go I haven't heard anything yet on the dealers give out loaner cars that are not the same brand. Replies to this message: fintail (Feb 08, 2008 9:56 am) laurasdada (Feb 08, 2008 1:58 pm)

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