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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [sls002] by lykourinou
Feb 07, 2008 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 27, 2006 9:06 am)


When Cadillac won the Dewar Trophy for "standard of the world", it meant that they were using interchangable parts to make Cadillac's, while the European cars were using custom made parts for each car.
  
There was only one Dewar Trophy for this category, and that Trophy is still Cadillac's. They are therefore still the "Standard of the World" and this topic should be terminated.

 
I have never heard of that, do you have a link to this info?
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [lykourinou] by 62vetteefp
Feb 07, 2008 (11:23 am)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Feb 07, 2008 10:34 am)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dewar_Trophy
 
This was too easy.
 
Back in the teen's all those cars were hand built. Parts were made one at a time. So Cadillac put specs out and made sure parts were interchangable on the vehicle.
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Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [rayainsw] by circlew
Feb 08, 2008 (5:21 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 07, 2008 9:50 am)

However, BMW gives you equal or upgrade to your model for a loaner.
 
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OW
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Re: What does "Standard of the World" mean? [62vetteefp] by circlew
Feb 08, 2008 (5:28 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Feb 07, 2008 11:23 am)

Small world. It has grown since then. The old trophy does not apply. New standards are set every day and IMO, Cadillac is not near the top.
 
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BMW loaners Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [circlew] by rayainsw
Feb 08, 2008 (5:32 am)
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Replying to: circlew (Feb 08, 2008 5:21 am)

I have read posts of 5 & 7 series drivers loaned a 3.
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Re: BMW loaners Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [rayainsw] by 62vetteefp
Feb 08, 2008 (7:06 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 08, 2008 5:32 am)

We all know the 3 is a much better car than the 5 or 7. It is just a bit smaller!!
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loaner's by sls002
Feb 08, 2008 (7:23 am)
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What a particular dealer does about lending customers a car to drive while they are servicing your's will vary from dealer to dealer. One thing that you should understand is that there is risk in lending you a car to drive - if you have an accident your insurance may cover you, but since the car is owned by the dealer, they are at risk too. The other point is that if the service department is working on say about 50 vehicles over a two day period, 50 loaners (Cadillacs) will have a value of perhaps 1 million dollars (used). That is a lot of money to tie up in loaners.
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Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [rayainsw] by bumpy
Feb 08, 2008 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Feb 07, 2008 9:50 am)

I don't think it's unreasonable. I could understand the dealer giving you a Monte Carlo SS if they didn't *have* any Corvettes to loan out, but they should try to give you something reasonably equivalent to what you bring in.
 
Back when my dad had the E320, the MB dealer usually gave him an Intrepid loaner (the Dodge dealer was on the same lot), which I thought was kind of skeezy of them. There was one time, though, when he had the car in for the third time in two weeks he told them "No, I'll be taking the S-class today." And he did.
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Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [bumpy] by sls002
Feb 08, 2008 (7:46 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Feb 08, 2008 7:31 am)

Well I think your point of view is extreme. But if the E320 was breaking down repeatedly, I certainly think that expecting "something" drive is not unreasonable. What would be "reasonable" depends on how the dealer (or salesman) values your business. If you have bought several new E-class cars in the past few years, then keeping you happy is probably worth something.
 
The issue here is how many people can a dealer keep happy at any point in time. How many "loaner" vehicles must a dealer keep in stock. At something like 100 grand per S-class, there really must be a limit.
 
By making rental vehicles available at a nominal rate, I think my dealer is doing something. The Suburban rental that I got cost Cadillac $20 per day.
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Re: Switching to Cadillac from Infiniti. [louiswei] by cooterbfd
Feb 08, 2008 (8:25 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Feb 07, 2008 9:51 am)

Lou, the local MB dealer around here gives you a Corrola for a service loaner. How's that for a slap in the face. At least when my dad brings his Town Car in, they give him an MKZ (I know, not Caddy) My great uncle has his latest DTS for over a year, and they DO give loaner cars (although he has yet to bring it in for unscheduled service ) He is retired, and can afford to wait for the oil changes.

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