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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [mr215] by lykourinou
Jan 10, 2008 (2:39 pm)
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 10, 2008 12:05 pm)

I hear you, but I don't know if you have had the opputunity to get a brochure on the 07 Escalade. I have one, had it for about a year or so. As soon as you open the front page it has a 22 inch chrome wheel and it says "Chrome Couture."
 
I never paid attention to it, till someone brought it to my attention that they stressed the wheels more than anything. Dont' get me wrong I love the SUV. And looks count alot, I like the looks of the Escalade but the technology of the QX. I wish Infiniti built the Escalade...lol..
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [lykourinou] by habitat1
Jan 11, 2008 (10:39 am)
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Replying to: lykourinou (Jan 10, 2008 2:39 pm)

As soon as you open the front page it has a 22 inch chrome wheel and it says "Chrome Couture."
 
Funny, what wets your whistle is what I have a tough time stomaching. Those 22" chrome wheels scream "pimp" and "drug dealer" to me. And I live in a good part of town!
 
Seriously, I've had an Escalade as a rental a few times and, IMO, they need to take the driving dynamics up about 3 notches before they can get away with 22" wheels that don't look embarassing. Hell, I wouldn't put those things on the new Porsche Cayenne GTS which, with a 6 speed manual, 415 hp engine and a world class sport suspension, can probably give the CTS-V a run for its money around Nurburgring.
 
"Chrome Couture" - makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up even thinking about it. But that's the nice thing about America - a choice for everybody.
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [habitat1] by lykourinou
Jan 11, 2008 (11:35 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 11, 2008 10:39 am)

Funny, what wets your whistle is what I have a tough time stomaching. Those 22" chrome wheels scream "pimp" and "drug dealer" to me. And I live in a good part of town!
 
I didn't say that I liked the rims, what I said was that GM stressed the rims more than anything else about the vehicle. Normally some brochures show pictures of the vehicle and then get into technicals.
 
And just because you have rims on your car does not make you a pimp or a drug dealer. I'm not bragging, but where I live you have to have alot of money to live here. Mostly doctors, lawyers people like that live here. In my block there is a young black guy whose name I never knew I just used to see him every now and again. Sometimes I would see him a few times a year and when I did see him he was driving a Ferrari, Porsche or some kind of exotic. He's in his early 30's and we were wondering what he did for a living.
 
I was talking to my next door neighbor one day and low and behold this young black male who comes and goes to his house a few months a year comes driving down the street in a QX56 with huge rims on it. He blew the horn and waved, at my neighbor because he didn't know me. My neighbor told me that he was a brilliant guy. it turns out he is some kind of neuro-surgeon and flies back and forth around the country to perform special procedures. I never thought that, because I have never seen him in scrubs going to work or anything like that. I had to learn not to judge people by what they drive or how they dress. I wish the world would do the same..but oh well. Back to cars.......
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [habitat1] by mr215
Jan 11, 2008 (12:34 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 11, 2008 10:39 am)

"Funny, what wets your whistle is what I have a tough time stomaching. Those 22" chrome wheels scream "pimp" and "drug dealer" to me. And I live in a good part of town!"
 
wow, thats pretty judgemental. I find it ironic that people who pride themselves on being authorities of good taste in automotive design dont have a problem with big rims unless they come on a domestic SUV like Escalde. MB is putting 21s on the GL550. You can get 20" rims as factory equipment from numerous European brands. The escalade (and other pimpmobile SUVs) seem to get all the flack when it comes to large wheels. The same rappers and athletes who love the Escalade also like fine european vehicles so I'm not sure why the Caddy is the only one that is disparaged based on its popularity amongst a certain groupd of people.
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Chages to 4.6L Northstar? by fjrpilot
Jan 11, 2008 (12:40 pm)
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I just traded a 2000 Deville base model for a 2007 DTS Lux 1. My wife was consistently getting 21 to 22 mpg driving primarily to work. With the DTS, 7171 miles on the clock, she has to baby it to get 19 mpg. Does anyone know what changes were made to the engine or drive train that would cause this degradation in economy? I don't know if she is just being green or cheap but she doesn't like it.
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Re: Chages to 4.6L Northstar? [fjrpilot] by 62vetteefp
Jan 11, 2008 (12:52 pm)
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Replying to: fjrpilot (Jan 11, 2008 12:40 pm)

The emissions are more stringent on the new DTS. Other than that everything else is exactly the same. 30 more pounds but that would not make that much of a difference. Same final drive ratio. Same engine. Perhaps though after the engine breaks in (6 years on your last one!) you may get the same MPG.
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Re: Chages to 4.6L Northstar? [62vetteefp] by bumpy
Jan 11, 2008 (1:30 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2008 12:52 pm)

Yeah, 7,000 miles may not be enough to really settle everything in. The newer aluminum-block Hyundais are tight before 10k or so.
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Re: Chages to 4.6L Northstar? [62vetteefp] by fjrpilot
Jan 11, 2008 (1:34 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 11, 2008 12:52 pm)

I trust you are correct about the breakin. I told her to just turn the DIC to some other function and I'll fill it up for her.
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Re: We have to get it together in the US [tntmyth] by trimaster
Jan 11, 2008 (6:02 pm)
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Replying to: tntmyth (Jan 03, 2008 9:13 pm)

Sounds like you'd be happiest in the Caddy. You should get it! I don't think you'd be dissapointed. It's a nice car.
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [mr215] by lykourinou
Jan 11, 2008 (8:17 pm)
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 11, 2008 12:34 pm)

so true, besides big rims typically go on full sized SUV's anyway. That being said the standard 18's on the Escalade do look embarrasingly small compared to the 22's.

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