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#4344 of 6098 Kudos to Caddy by steve_ HOST Jan 09, 2008 (9:37 pm)
"The 2008 Cadillac CTS (pictured) won Top Safety Pick honors from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety."   Kudos: Cadillac CTS Named Top Safety Pick by Insurance Group (Inside Line)     I think you get to enjoy that Top Safety Pick rating whether you wear a helmet or not btw. Replies to this message: rockylee (Jan 10, 2008 3:47 am)
#4345 of 6098 Re: price ?? Re: CTS-v 09 [louiswei] by rockylee Jan 10, 2008 (3:47 am)
Replying to: louiswei (Jan 09, 2008 1:01 pm) Well the cool thing about the V, is you don't have to re-program the engine to get maximum results. Yeah the M5, is still a cool automobile though.   -Rocky
#4346 of 6098 Re: Kudos to Caddy [steve_] by rockylee Jan 10, 2008 (3:47 am)
Replying to: steve_ (Jan 09, 2008 9:37 pm) Sweeeet !!!!   -Rocky
#4347 of 6098 Cadillac Ranch is a work of art still in progress by rockylee Jan 10, 2008 (3:53 am)
Here's some former "Standard of the Worlds"   http://info.detnews.com/redesign/joyrides/index.cfm?id=706   If any of you drive down I-40 west of Amarillo, Tx ya gotta go check this out !!!!   -Rocky
#4348 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [louiswei] by pmusce Jan 10, 2008 (4:19 am)
Replying to: louiswei (Jan 09, 2008 9:02 am) Really? Let's see...    Caddy Escalade: 6.2L V8 with 403hp/417lb-ft = 65hp/67lb-ft per liter     Toyota Sequoia: 5.7L V8 with 381hp/401lb-ft = 67hp/70lb-ft per litter    The only reason why the Escalade 6.2L V8 is more powerful is due to the larger displacement.    Ranger rover's supercharged 4.2L only makes 390hp.    That's 93hp per liter mind you, SC though   Why does larger displacement mean one engine is better then the other? The 6.2 is physically smaller (and lighter) then the Toyota 5.7. Displacement is just total cylindar volume. That's why you won't see the 5.7 in a Lexus IS. It won't fit. Replies to this message: mr215 (Jan 10, 2008 6:03 am) louiswei (Jan 10, 2008 9:23 am)
#4349 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [pmusce] by mr215 Jan 10, 2008 (6:03 am)
Replying to: pmusce (Jan 10, 2008 4:19 am) this is brought up often to suggest that "smaller" engines (displacement, not size) are better than larger ones. As you noted, displacement doesnt even directly correlate to engine size and a pushrod engine can be smaller and lighter than a DOHC engine of smaller displacement. Furthermore, many DOHC V8s in trucks/SUVs have iron blocks while most of GM's OHV V8s are all aluminum. I'm not sure if Toyota uses an iron block in the 5.7L but I would bet they do. Replies to this message: louiswei (Jan 10, 2008 9:23 am)
#4350 of 6098 engine comparisons by sls002 Jan 10, 2008 (8:00 am)
I think that when comparing one engine with another one should take more than one item into account. Horsepower is not the only thing that matters (or horsepower per liter). For the Escalade I think one should keep in mind that it is a truck based SUV than can tow, so: 1 - cost should always be considered 2 - trucks (SUV's) that tow will want more torque at low engine speeds 3 - NVH is always a consideration   OHC's can be tuned to provide low end torque, but for a truck the pushrod design is not at a disadvantage. For heavy duty towing the engine should be designed for hard work.
#4351 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [mr215] by louiswei Jan 10, 2008 (9:23 am)
Replying to: mr215 (Jan 10, 2008 6:03 am) not sure if Toyota uses an iron block in the 5.7L but I would bet they do.   Nope, The Toyota 5.7 V8 uses aluminum for the cylinder block and DOHC heads.   Source: Toyota Tundra - 2008 Performance & Specifications
#4352 of 6098 Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [habitat1] by lykourinou Jan 10, 2008 (10:16 am)
Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 09, 2008 3:16 pm) I completely agree, I never even looked at cadillac until they came up with the newer generation Escalade. Aimed at a younger buyer, if they can get it right it will spell success for GM. For instance I never ever considered buick until the new Enclave. GM is trying but they still have a ways to go.   And yes young people do want sexier cars, if you notice people including GM reps are talking more about the look of the new Escalade rather than reliablity or technology.. Looks aren't everything but the Escalade is perhaps one of the most beautiful vehicles ever produced. Replies to this message: mr215 (Jan 10, 2008 12:05 pm) lykourinou (Jan 10, 2008 2:39 pm) habitat1 (Jan 11, 2008 10:39 am) and 26 more...
#4353 of 6098 Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [lykourinou] by mr215 Jan 10, 2008 (12:05 pm)
Replying to: lykourinou (Jan 10, 2008 10:16 am) Style is important but the Escalade does offer a lot of technology as well. Some folks act like the Escalade is all looks and no substance but that isnt the case. A truck that weighs 5800lbs and gets to 60 in 6.5secs has more to offer than looks. Replies to this message: lykourinou (Jan 10, 2008 2:39 pm) habitat1 (Jan 11, 2008 10:39 am) lykourinou (Jan 11, 2008 11:35 am) and 23 more... mr215 (Jan 11, 2008 12:34 pm) and 1 more...

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