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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 8:31 am) |
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 8:31 am) |
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 09, 2008 11:39 am) never seen that "consensus" view you speak of but perhaps I am alone. I will say that based on the numbers posted in instrumented testing the CTS is on par with the 5. The CTS is rarely compared to the 5 series because of its price even though they are about the exact same size. I cant be as nimble as a 3 series do its wheelbase length and weight although it did post a better lane change speed than the 328 in a recent comparo. I have seen nothing regarding the 2008 CTS indicating it cant handle as well as a 5 series. If you have a particular review in mind that states that feel free to let me know. I can tell you that C&D informally compared the CTS-V to M3 and last gen M5 (it had just been discontinued) in 2004 and said the Caddy was very comparable to the M5 and considering its price advantage was a great alternative. To be perfectly honest any driver with a bias can say the BMW handles better so the real measure needs to be objective, like a lap time at a track. Once the CTS-V comes out I'm sure someone will mention its lap time at the Ring and compare that to the C63, M3, etc. and then I think we will have an answer. "Also, just to remind you that I don't think the M3 and M5 are packing anything up to go anywhere soon. " M3 comes out a few months before the CTS-V. Its not being redesigned anytime soon. They are peers in price and unless the CTS-V has a secret flaw it should be able to do anything the M3 can do, only a little faster. when you get to this level of performance its hard to say which car is "better" per se since they all perform within a hair of each other. The question isnt whether or not the CTS-V can beat the M cars across the board, the question is if the car is a no excuses American alternative. The answer is yes.
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 12:05 pm) Also, you are so right on one shouldn't judge a car based on objective feelings and should focus on the cold hard facts like the slalom, skidpad, acceleration and braking test data. Once the full test has been done then we can see how well the CTS-V stack up against the competitors.
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 09, 2008 12:23 pm) If I could afford a car in that range I would get one regardless. There is no way a few tenths of acceleration through the 1/4 mile or a foot longer stopping distance would dissuade me from buying this car over an $82k M5 especially since I dont even like the interior of the M5. For those who need to see the stats before being impressed I think its logical to wait until the mags get a hold of this car.
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 12:40 pm) The only reason I might choose the M5 over this (if I win the lottery) is due to that it has been my long time dream car.
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2008 5:10 am) When I made the comment that I thought Cadillac/GM was out of sync, I didn't suggest they should produce "old people cars". My comment was in response to some other posts indicating Cadillac was trying (or should try) to refocus their demographic target at a younger buyer. There is no doubt that the baby boomers today want a sexier car than the older generation did in the 70's. Just give them a sexier car, and embrace that market segment, as it is a big one.
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"The 2008 Cadillac CTS (pictured) won Top Safety Pick honors from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety." Kudos: Cadillac CTS Named Top Safety Pick by Insurance Group (Inside Line)  I think you get to enjoy that Top Safety Pick rating whether you wear a helmet or not btw. 
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 09, 2008 1:01 pm) -Rocky |
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 09, 2008 9:37 pm)  -Rocky |
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