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#4320 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [mr215] by bumpy Jan 09, 2008 (8:33 am)
Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 8:23 am) Inside the vehicle, no, thanks to engine covers, dynamic motor mounts, and gobs and gobs of cabin insulation. Outside the vehicle is another story, though. Replies to this message: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 8:38 am) bumpy (Jan 09, 2008 8:42 am) sls002 (Jan 09, 2008 8:48 am) mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 10:32 am)
#4321 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [bumpy] by mr215 Jan 09, 2008 (8:38 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Jan 09, 2008 8:33 am) the exhaust note is what you hear when an escalade (or other GMT900 SUV) drives by, not the engine. In my experience German cars make a lot more racket outside the car than Asian or GM cars. I have seen many GM SUVs on the streets and never have I found engine noise to be objectionable or even noticeable. Acoustic engine covers are going to mute noise all around so being inside or outside the vehicle is irrelevant. If you really want to hear obnoxious sounds outside of a vehicle listen to a 350Z, G35 coupe or FX or any of Nissan's V8 powered vehicles. They are all loud and annoying to me. Replies to this message: bumpy (Jan 09, 2008 8:42 am) sls002 (Jan 09, 2008 8:48 am) mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 10:32 am)
#4322 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [mr215] by bumpy Jan 09, 2008 (8:42 am)
Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 8:38 am) I'm talking specifically about the noise from the engine at idle, not the exhaust. Replies to this message: sls002 (Jan 09, 2008 8:48 am) mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 10:32 am)
#4323 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [bumpy] by sls002 Jan 09, 2008 (8:48 am)
Replying to: bumpy (Jan 09, 2008 8:42 am) I think that you have a valid point. My northstar V8s are very quite at idle after they are warmed up. I think that calling the pushrod designs barbaric is a bit over the top though (that was not your post though). I will point out that the DI 3.6 has a noise problem that is a result of its design.
#4324 of 6098 Re: price ?? Re: CTS-v 09 [mr215] by louiswei Jan 09, 2008 (8:49 am)
Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 5:50 am) Lexus is charging $60k for the IS-F and that only has 416hp.   And BMW is charging over $60k for the M3 and that only has 410hp and 2 less doors!!. Better yet, Porsche is charging $60k for the Boxster and that doesn't even have 300hp. Also Lotus is...   I can go on and on and on you know.   By the way, I'll take NA over FI anytime. Replies to this message: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 10:43 am) louiswei (Jan 09, 2008 10:55 am) mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 11:23 am) and 6 more...
#4325 of 6098 lemko...... by rockylee Jan 09, 2008 (8:50 am)
I think you need to buy the girlfriend a 09' CTS-V. Sounds like a good excuse.....   -Rocky
#4326 of 6098 CTS discussion Car of the Year candidate by imidazol97 Jan 09, 2008 (8:54 am)
62vettefp posted a mention about autolinedetroit.com and a discussion about picking and driving the Car of the Year award candidates in another discussion here on Edmunds.   I'm posting the link for the video of the PBS show in Detroit from Sunday.   link title Replies to this message: lykourinou (Jan 09, 2008 10:14 am)
#4327 of 6098 Re: Ultra V8 axed [mr215] by louiswei Jan 09, 2008 (9:02 am)
Replying to: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 7:47 am) Toyota's 5.7L has less power and torque and a lower redline while having no advantage in efficiency. Ranger rover's supercharged 4.2L only makes 390hp.   Really? Let's see...   Caddy Escalade: 6.2L V8 with 403hp/417lb-ft = 65hp/67lb-ft per liter    Toyota Sequoia: 5.7L V8 with 381hp/401lb-ft = 67hp/70lb-ft per litter   The only reason why the Escalade 6.2L V8 is more powerful is due to the larger displacement.   Ranger rover's supercharged 4.2L only makes 390hp.   That's 93hp per liter mind you, SC though. Replies to this message: mr215 (Jan 09, 2008 10:39 am) pmusce (Jan 10, 2008 4:19 am) mr215 (Jan 10, 2008 6:03 am) louiswei (Jan 10, 2008 9:23 am)
#4329 of 6098 Re: CTS discussion Car of the Year candidate [imidazol97] by lykourinou Jan 09, 2008 (10:14 am)
Replying to: imidazol97 (Jan 09, 2008 8:54 am) thanks for thelink

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