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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [habitat1] by 62vetteefp
Jan 08, 2008 (5:10 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 08, 2008 2:46 am)

it appears that GM is perenially out of sync. They needed young and hip cars 20 years ago. Today they might actually want models that appeal to the older generation which will be increasing significantly over the next 20+ years.
 
I thought the article said it but perhaps it was some other. The baby boomers do not want old people cars. Since I am just about 50 (WOW) I can see that. The cars of yesteryear designed for older folks were well done and did their jobs great. Buicks, Olds and Cadillac did great. But today's soon to be old population does not want that. They do not want to drive old cars. Buick and Cadillac are doing exactly what the older population coming up wants. The Cadillacs are more performance oriented and hip. Buicks are becoming more stylish and premium lux, including the ride. I see nowhere where GM has thrown away the older market. If anything they continue to get it, as evidenced by our previous threads.
 
Now if you feel Caddy and Buick are taking the wrong direction I wonder who you think the boomers will be buying into? Lexus? Well they are as close to Buick in so many ways that Buick will be there for them. Mercedes/BMW? Again Cadillac is right there with their new products coming out. Both divisions are squarely aiming at the boomers with money. Most Chevrolet models also can satisfy boomers that do not have the money or do not feel the need to spend it on a car. Only Saturn and Pontiac seem to be going after a more youthful market.
 
Heck what makes a vehicle more attractive to the boomers? Ride? Ergonomics? Styling?
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CTS_v by mr215
Jan 08, 2008 (5:55 am)
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For those who continue to doubt that Cadillac is serious about competing I suggest you check out the specs on the CTS-V. I'm sure there will still be naysayers claiming "it looks good on paper but that doesnt mean it can compete with M cars" but I will let the car speak for itself. Based on GM press release the car has 550hp and 550 lb-ft from the 6.2L V8 as well as 19" rims on Z rated tires, huge Brembo brakes with 6 piston calipers in front and 4 in the back, recaro seats with 14 way adjustment, magneride, launch control system to keep the car from burning up rear tires, choice of 6 speed auto with paddle shifters and 6 speed manual and new interior trim. It may not be standard of the world, but its sounds good to me and enough to meet or beat the E63 and M5.
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CTS-v 09 by rayainsw
Jan 08, 2008 (7:05 am)
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Could be interesting:
 
http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/news/events/autoshows/08naias/brands/cadillac/ctsv/- 08_NAIAS_09_Cadillac%20CTS-V_Overview.htm
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Re: CTS-v 09 [rayainsw] by mr215
Jan 08, 2008 (7:13 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Jan 08, 2008 7:05 am)

I would like to see some interior pics but It looks like we may have to wait a few days for that to happen. So far it sounds quite impressive.
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [habitat1] by xrunner2
Jan 08, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Jan 08, 2008 2:46 am)

It's not the older buyers that are the "enemy" of GM. It was the incompetent employees in the design, engineering, marketing and manufacturing departments that couldn't put together decent cars to appeal to younger buyers in the 1970's, 1980's and 1990's.
 
Give majority blame for GM woes of 70's-90's to lack of proper direction and leadership. Success/failure of any company lies primarily with top management.
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [xrunner2] by mr215
Jan 08, 2008 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jan 08, 2008 8:40 am)

I agree. Better management and investments in the last few years have generated GM's best products ever. The most important thing is consistency- GM seems to be able to turn out consistently good vehicles these days. None are below average in design and performance and some are near the top of their respective class.
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Future Caddy by steve_ HOST
Jan 08, 2008 (8:57 am)
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"The five-passenger Provoq has a 300-mile driving range, of which 280 are provided via the hydrogen power through the electric battery. Caldwell said Cadillac is not estimating the horsepower of the Provoq. The new concept sprints from zero to 60 mph in 8.5 seconds"
 
Cadillac Provoq Concept Offers Provocative Look at the Future (Inside Line)
 
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Re: Future Caddy [steve_] by mr215
Jan 08, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Jan 08, 2008 8:57 am)

that is most likely hte 2010 BRX right there. The interior is almost 100% production ready.
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Re: Future Caddy [mr215] by 62vetteefp
Jan 08, 2008 (9:42 am)
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 08, 2008 9:03 am)

I agree, looks like it. Where are pics of the interior?
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Re: Future Caddy [62vetteefp] by mr215
Jan 08, 2008 (10:59 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 08, 2008 9:42 am)

you can see them at autoblog.com amongst other places. The interior is very similar to CTS.

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