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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [mr215] by louiswei
Jan 04, 2008 (1:48 pm)
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Replying to: mr215 (Jan 04, 2008 1:01 pm)

You may want to try again...
 
Average buyer age:
 
Buick - 60.8
Cadillac - 53.4
Lexus - 49.4
 
Source: USA Today
 
Now let's look at buyers' age profile for both Lexus and Cadillac's entry level models:
 
Lexus IS
Ages 16-35: 41%
Ages 36-55: 43%
Ages 56+: 17%
 
Cadillac CTS
Ages 16-35: 34%
Ages 36-55: 54%
Ages 56+: 12%
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [louiswei] by 62vetteefp
Jan 04, 2008 (2:32 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 04, 2008 1:48 pm)

If we take a look at the ES which is arguably the vehicle most buyers will compare the CTS to and is the volume vehicle at Lexus we can see where the old retired image is coming from.
 
Cadillac CTS
Ages 16-35: 34%
Ages 36-55: 54%
Ages 56+: 12%
 
Lexus ES
Ages 16-35: 8%
Ages 36-55: 38%
Ages 56+: 54%
 
Lexus IS
Ages 16-35: 41%
Ages 36-55: 43%
Ages 56+: 17%
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [62vetteefp] by louiswei
Jan 04, 2008 (2:44 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 04, 2008 2:32 pm)

True, but too bad that even with the ES and LS Lexus still managed to have an average buyer age lower than Cadillac.
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Re: Can we get back to Cadillac [louiswei] by 62vetteefp
Jan 04, 2008 (2:54 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 04, 2008 2:44 pm)

Took a look at the other Caddy's numbers. STS has 73% and DTS even higher 91% over 56.
 
But then I looked at the LS and it is 65% over 56 which is comparable to the STS. Guess money is in the hands of the boomers.
 
I think though that the point is still that the Lexus buyers are aging and the average is going up year by year. Where did you get the manufacturer average age numbers?
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can't read graphs by sls002
Jan 04, 2008 (3:11 pm)
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Check the CTS graphs again - 12% is the 16 to 35
54% is the over 56 group - this is an old man's car
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Re: can't read graphs [sls002] by louiswei
Jan 04, 2008 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Jan 04, 2008 3:11 pm)

You are right, I got them mixed up.
 
Man, before I though Caddy was doing well with the new CTS for attracting young buyers. Now it doesn't look good at all.
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Re: can't read graphs [louiswei] by imidazol97
Jan 04, 2008 (3:59 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Jan 04, 2008 3:25 pm)

>before I though Caddy was doing well with the new CTS for attracting young buyers.
 
Most of the owners now of CTS's in this part of the Midwest are younger than they used to be. And they impress me as quietly very afluent. That says to me they buy another car again in a few short years. That says opportunity for repeat sale of Cadillac product to their demographic based on age. It's up to Caddy to have it.
 
The older buyers of Cadillacs tended to keep their cars long, in my observation, before trading them. Many bought early CTS's. But the younger, independent-minded owners I see are a good sign. Understand when I say "younger," I don't mean average of 35; it's more like 45 but there are 30-somethings in there.
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Re: ultra cancelled [62vetteefp] by rockylee
Jan 04, 2008 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Jan 04, 2008 4:54 am)

Holy Cow 62' !!!!
 
The ULTRA program had to be expensive. Why can't they add the 2-Mode Hybrid to it to help increase fuel efficiency pal ????
 
This is most upsetting because I was really looking forward to that engine as it was a sign of change. I thought we would see V12 & V16 made out of that engine.
 
-Rocky

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