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Heck, maybe there's a rumor Consumer Reports is about to be outsourced to China or India and the editors have finally seen the error of their ways?
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 31, 2007 11:36 am) CR started liking anything small that got good gas mileage. I recall a neighbor having a little Fiat that looked like a Rabbit which was built later. I recall laughing because I'd see it towed home or see it along the highway into the city; apparently that person commuted to work 30 miles each way and wanted the small car and the gas mileage. At that time GM (and others) didn't produce anything at all light, small, simple, basic, and economical. Somehow the heads at the Big Three couldn't reconfigure building a car on a frame to give small and light. That led to companies who could supply small, light, siimple, cheap, economical an opening. Then things like Vega were attempted with flaws. Flaws were okay for some of the foreign brands, but flaws were fatal to the Vega. I believe GM built a whole new factory at Lordstown, Ohio, to build the Vega. I rode in a Vega later. It reminds me of a friend's CVCC 1978 that died everytime it was driven in a rainstorm and had to parked and retrieved the next day. |
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Replying to: lemko (Dec 31, 2007 11:36 am) I suspect Japanese could do a much better job. CR seems to have always approved of the Japanese in a protective way, so th t would be the obvious foreign country. Of course the new producers could always start an office here so they could say CR is still US written. |
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Like opinions, everybody's got one! So, once CR starts giving thumbs up to GM, then all the players will finally be greasing CR and it'll be an even playing field? I was pleasantly surprised when CR gave the first model year Fusion such a good review, didn't know Ford had that much money... Come on onlygmmatters, Rocky has forthrightly documented his belief in/support of GM (family works for the General). Do you work for 'em? Are you one of Roger Smith's family??? Or one of Rocky's family? Inquiring minds want to know...  GM built/imported a bunch of cars that weren't up to the competition in many areas for a long time. Things are getting better, but it'll take time to clear that bad taste. But, hopefully it's happening... Friend had a '71 Vega. Lots of problems, finally sold it. The day the new owners were coming to pick it up, the engine wouldn't start. Then, when if finally turned over, it caught fire! Friend throws dirt from driveway to put out fire, cleans up engine buy, buyers arrive and drive the car away... Good times, good times... |
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Thanks for mentioning something I did not know about the DTS...are the Lux versions of the DTS equipped with a diff ratio than the perf DTS???...thanks... I could consider the Buick if it really is a DTS in disguise, as I want a larger car like my Crown Vic...so far the DTS seems to be what I seek, but if GM has made the same thing in a "cheaper knockoff", that would be sweet...
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Replying to: marsha7 (Dec 31, 2007 2:08 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 31, 2007 2:37 pm) |
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 31, 2007 10:06 am) |
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So now part of GM's problems are because it is a victim of a Consumer Reports conspiracy? I am not an avid reader of Consumer Reports, but as I recall, all those thousands of black dots that GM has hoarded over the years are from "consumers" of their products citning ownership problems. Duh. And now we have GM fans criticizing the work conditions and unfair labor practices of Korean manufacturers. These are the same GM owners that fill the parking lot and do their weekly shopping at Wal Mart, I assume? Look, whether I am running my company, being a parent to my children, or competing on the golf course or baseball field with my buddies, if I'm not getting the results I want, I look to what I can do better. I have heard these BS excuses as to why GM, Ford and Chrysler have failed for decade after decade. Let me tell you GM apologists something. There is hardly a successful American business that hasn't had to face the same or tougher conditions than the "Big Three" have. And the successful ones don't make excuses. They figure out what it's going to take to win and go out there and do it. How many times have I pointed out that GE builds the best damn locomotives in the world? And now the best wind turbines. Among a few thousand other products. Boeing builds the best planes in the world in spite of competing with consortiums of other governments. Deere & Caterpillar build the best tractors and heavy industrial equipment. They do it with union labor, no less. Apple has gone from the celler to a company worht about 7 times the market value of Ford and GM combined. You think any of them had it easy compared to GM who took an oligopolic position in the US auto industry and pissed it away? Bull. My New Year resolution is not to say anything specifically negative about any product without first trying it out myself. So here's hoping I am pleasantly surprised by the CTS and/or some other GM products in 2008. But for those of you who would look at the past and see conspiracy or look at the present and make excuses (or predictions that the next model will be the savior) I hope you also remove your blinders and realize that all three of the Big Three have exhibited behavior worthy of sending your kids to bed without dinner. For a long time. And nobody should be an apologist for that. It's un-American. In any event, differences of opinion aside, Happy New Year to all. 
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