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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
6098 messages, Last post on Aug 14, 2009 at 4:43 PM
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| I cannot believe lexus made it into this discussion either. Their still fighting it out with Lincoln and Acura for the basement = the class of wannabe luxury cars but don't quite know how to break out of the "cheap Honda/Toyota with wood" syndrome. | |
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Replying to: onlygmmatters (Dec 28, 2007 8:07 am) Are you for real?
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Replying to: fintail (Dec 28, 2007 8:15 am) Does Mercedes offer heated windshield washer fluid? They certainly lack the style and elegance of a Buick which in this class is a big part of the draw isn't it? Look at a Lucerne and then look at a fat ugly mercedes or a disjointed BMW and tell me which one looks more stylish. Take off the blinders while your at it. Buick is the next one to take over Cadillacs place against the Germans. A V16 supercar will cement that notion because there is no V16 in a BMW or Mercerdes is there? No. Just like the Germans cannot come up with an answer to the Escalade and the CTS has made the competition look like econoboxes, but they can (for now) compete with Buick (aside from reliability/durability/quality of course). So if GM continues to build up Buick like they have been doing with the excellent Enclave and class leading Lucerne then I bet Buick really could end up ranking right next to those German brands. maybe they don't have more clout now, but I think they will in the future.
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so I can be sure to avoid it. 
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Replying to: onlygmmatters (Dec 28, 2007 8:26 am) I will believe that V16 supercar when I see it, I won't hold my breath. MB has had their twin-turbo V12 for some time now. There's not a lot of point to it when the V8s are so fine to begin with. The same will hold true for Caddy's big engine...which I do not expect to see. You mention the terms...please define reliabity, durabilty, and quality as different constructs. Saturn doesn't meet all three, that's for sure. German cars still OWN the global luxury market, and this shows no signs of changing. 'Und morgen die ganze Welt' has been realized by MB with its wide product line from subcompacts to buses and semis...I don't see this happening with the American competition. Concentrate on building yourself before comparing to others. This is how Caddy should develop, and in many ways, has. Their domestic market future is bright, without silly claims.
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 28, 2007 8:30 am) GM stock is down 40% since October 15, making the "sub prime" mess almost look good by comparison. Over the past 4 years, GM has lost over 50% of it's market value. During the same 4 years, Apple has gone up over 1,700%, and as a company, is now worth 13 times as much as GM. Toyota a little more than that. And Cadillac is the standard of the world? For what, embarassment?
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 28, 2007 8:43 am)
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