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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 28, 2007 7:53 am) could not rememeber exact year. MY point is the same, Cadillac managed to outsell BMW, MB and Lexus for decades and yet people are hear saying they made nothing but undesirable, unreliable, pathetic vehicles until the 2008 CTS came out. Cadillac's record of success in the US is far more impressive than Lexus' 6 straight years. When Lexus gets to 30 or 40 straight years I will be impressed. At the rate BMW is going with Mini and the new 1 series they may pass Lexus soon.
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To get back on topic rather than going down the road of an incendiary topic, Cadillac has returned itself to standard of the world and the Escalade is an example of why it is happening. The fact that it aggravates a few so much that they spend time posting about how it's not really true just shows that it is happening. The futile attempt to live in the past when designs and cars from Cadillac division were more run-of-the-mill is not working. The topic isn't about how we don't like something from the past 20 years ago. The topic is "Can..." and indeed it is happening with the CTS and other vehicles from Cadillac and other parts of GM. E.g., as for parts falling from a new Malibu, I'd expect to have transmission problems with a Camry or Accord much more than from a Malibu. I'd expect a rough ride in a hard seat or a too soft ride in a minimal seat from a Camry. In both the interior of the models I sat in were "cheap" plastic. Actually it was expensive plastic and just looked cheap. So I'm not sure why Malibu was brought into the discussion. Of course we could say the same about Rockylee's brother being mentioned. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 28, 2007 7:58 am) 
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Replying to: mrsyj (Dec 28, 2007 7:57 am) Good god, are you mad? US is Cadillac's home court so reasonably Cadillac should be able to OWN this market without breaking a sweat. However, that was not the case as we witnessed and the best yet is that the best selling luxury brand crown was lost to a 10-year-old company with a history of making tin cans back in the 60s and 70s. And you are still here acting like that was no big deal...  Time for you GM apologist to WAKE UP!!! |
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one XLR in my life. I had to think about it for a moment to figure out what it was.
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Dec 28, 2007 7:58 am) "I'd expect to have transmission problems with a Camry or Accord much more than from a Malibu. I'd expect a rough ride in a hard seat or a too soft ride in a minimal seat from a Camry." I expect a lot more than that! How's that sludged engine doing on that Camry? How's the snapped camshaft on that Tundra? The snapped frames on those Toyota trucks? The cheap plasticy interiors and flimsy crap Hondas? I don't know why the Malibu should even be mentioned in the same sentence as those other POS cars, it's on its own level. Just like Cadillac does not belong in the same sentence as a lowly BMW or Audi, that is what Buick takes care of at the moment. buick has more clout than Mercedes nowadays, at least GM can build a car that doesn't put its owner in the poor farm! |
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Replying to: bumpy (Dec 28, 2007 8:06 am) |
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I am in the northwest, where by the way in some areas one can't throw a tennis ball without having it bounce off a Slade or a Denali. Smoke the plain bare-bones SL550? I think 0-60 times were only about half a second apart...which when one is comparing the tuned model vs the plain model, is not as much as it should be. Shouldn' the tuned model not be competing with the base model? Most people care for interior materials when looking at an interior too...and the edgy for the sake of being edgy line of the XLR is becoming pretty 'dated' itself. The CTS softened a bit, and so will the XLR. Keeping something in production for too long with no revisions doesn't mean it isn't dated. |
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