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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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lemko........ by rockylee
Dec 24, 2007 (4:44 am)
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My gawd pal, I got a hair up my rear and wondered if Lincoln, had any new info on the Lincoln MKS, and boy, oh boy, that is one hot momma !!!!
 
Lincoln, is finally becoming competitive again. I tell you what if they can offer a great red carpet lease on the MKS, it could steal some CTS, sales.
 
I'm just glad Ford/Lincoln, has finally made a car I would like to own.
 
-Rocky
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Re: Why I buy Cadillac over Benz [rockylee] by lemko
Dec 24, 2007 (7:53 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Dec 24, 2007 3:15 am)

It has that and more!
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Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [sls002] by mrsyj
Dec 25, 2007 (6:50 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 12:47 pm)

skidpad is a measure of grip, not necessarily handling. As I stated in the recent C&D test the CTS posted a faster lane change speed than the G35 and 328i in spite of being far heavier than both. The CTS' skidpad performance is going to be compromised by its weight and tires as you noted. That does not mean that its not as nimble or capable as the BMW or G35.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [habitat1] by mrsyj
Dec 25, 2007 (6:53 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 21, 2007 2:12 pm)

"Perhaps if you are into chrome grills and Rock em Sock em Robot exterior lines. It's still ugly GM on the outside to me. Let's just say that looks are subjective and some have a taste for GM styling and others don't. "
 
from my perspective only die hard GM bashers find the CTS unattractive. I agree that styling is subjective but sometimes almost everyone agrees a design is on point. The CTS is one of those cases. Even the most jaded anti GM press outlets have praised the car for its looks and I agree 100%. Its certainly more original and compelling than anything coming out of Lexus these days. Nice to see a design that doesnt seem to be copied from Mercedes or BMW.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [trimaster] by mrsyj
Dec 25, 2007 (6:59 am)
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Replying to: trimaster (Dec 21, 2007 10:56 pm)

"I think the CTS is a nice car. I'm glad GM has a potential winner on their hands. Yes it has good reviews, but it all comes down to sales. Hopefully it does well."
 
Since its been on sale the 2008 CTS has outsold the C class, TL, IS, A4 and G35. I would say the car s doing just fine and will continue to do so. While there are many people who wont give the car a chance because its American and they hate American cars and would love to see GM go bankrupt, there are plenty of people who will drive a no excuse car like teh CTS. Read some of the consumer reviews right here on this site, many owners have traded in European cars. BTW, the CTS isnt too big compared to luxury cars like the E class, and 5 series. Its only big when compared to the compact 3 series and c class. I see nothing admirable about a compact luxury car that costs $40k. C&D noted the Civic is larger than the C class. While some people hold on to the notion that smaller means better handling we know there are plenty of midsize vehicles out here than handle just fine.
 
Cadillac has been getting good reviews on their products since the 2003 CTS came out nearly 6 years ago. This isn't a new phenomenon. CAdillacs were criticized in the past for being too soft but they have never hit the quality lows than MB has hit in the last 10-15 years.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [laurasdada] by mrsyj
Dec 25, 2007 (7:03 am)
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Replying to: laurasdada (Dec 22, 2007 10:40 am)

"Now we all know Mercedes has had its own quality problems of late. But that is just for the last 7 or 8 years? GM, well, quality issues have been a fact of life for about 30 years... "
 
overstatement to say the least. We have no proof that GM has been making poor quality vehicles across the board for 30 years. In addition, lets remember that MB has never had a quality reputation equal to that of Lexus. In fact the Japanese luxury brands were the ones who taught the Euro brands that quality and customer service were important. Furthermore we know that GM quality is improving but I'm not sure we have much evidence of the same for MB. I would never exclude the CTS just because I thought MB made a better car than GM 30 years ago. That is irrelevant now. Right now all the surveys show Cadillac has better service and quality than Mercedes and thats all that matters.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [mrsyj] by bumpy
Dec 25, 2007 (10:14 am)
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Replying to: mrsyj (Dec 25, 2007 7:03 am)

We have no proof that GM has been making poor quality vehicles across the board for 30 years.
 
 
 
Pffft. Shill.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [mrsyj] by louiswei
Dec 25, 2007 (10:23 am)
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Replying to: mrsyj (Dec 25, 2007 7:03 am)

We have no proof that GM has been making poor quality vehicles across the board for 30 years.
 
You were doing just fine until that statement (well, except saying that Lexus' L-Finesse design is copied from BMW and MB. You need an eye check).
 
True color always shows...
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Re: Road & Track comparison [louiswei] by aldw
Dec 25, 2007 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Dec 25, 2007 10:23 am)

It's not incorrect, as GM even during Roger Smith's time still had vehicles like the Buick T-types and such that could take a licking and keep on ticking to an extent that would destroy a foreign make. What GM lacked was more along the lines of fashionableness and marketing.
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Let's not... by steve_ HOST
Dec 25, 2007 (12:22 pm)
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...make it personal.
 
Reasonable people can disagree, and sweeping generalizations can be fallacious.

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