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#3930 of 6098 Re: Road & Track comparison [trimaster] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: trimaster (Dec 19, 2007 9:22 pm) Cadillac doesnt have to fit its cars into the BMW/MB size/price categories. The CTS offers more space than the compact 3 or C300 for the same or less money. thats really all there is to it in the end. There isnt a law that says a $35k luxury car has to be a compact. The TL is midsized and has done VERY well competing with the compact European cars. The 3 and C are too small for people who plan on using the backseats of their sedans but people buy them for image reasons and because they are the cheapest cars at their respective brands. The CTS gives you more usable space and comparable handling for the same money. its a logical move. In the future a compact Caddy will slot below the CTS.
#3931 of 6098 Re: the issue here [jkr2106] by 62vetteefp Dec 20, 2007 (3:15 pm)
Replying to: jkr2106 (Dec 20, 2007 12:50 pm) Do not know. Googled it about a week ago and the info was very inconclusive on what the latest rumors are.
#3936 of 6098 Re: Road & Track comparison [mrsyj] by trimaster Dec 20, 2007 (8:24 pm)
Replying to: mrsyj (Dec 20, 2007 12:39 pm) If you are talking about sports sedans most German car owners do not respect Lexus.   Oh no. I wasn't talking about the sports cars. i was referring to the LS and how it has fared against the S and 7. The IS hasn't done well and the GS is worse. The ES is, well, I don't know WHAT the ES is, but it sells. It's not compared to any Bimmer or Benz IM...   the CTS is a better car than the A4 and C class right now. The 3 is sportier but not necessarily a better all around car. There is no objective reason to by a competing Audi or MB over the CTS.   Objective reason? Replies to this message: sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 7:55 am) mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 10:31 am) habitat1 (Dec 21, 2007 2:12 pm) sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 2:34 pm) mrsyj (Dec 25, 2007 6:53 am) trimaster (Dec 21, 2007 10:56 pm) laurasdada (Dec 22, 2007 10:40 am) and 42 more... mrsyj (Dec 25, 2007 6:59 am) and 22 more...
#3937 of 6098 Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [habitat1] by rockylee Dec 20, 2007 (9:54 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 am) Rocky, I will give the best GM can serve up a test drive.   I do want you to give the CTS-V a try habitat1   -Rocky
#3938 of 6098 WSJ article Dec 21 on CTS by xrunner2 Dec 21, 2007 (7:29 am)
Dec 21 edition of WSJ has an article on the 08 CTS. It mentions that CTS was Motor Trend’s car of the year. It has a table listing specs of CTS, G35, Lexus GS and 5 Series.   The writer, Jeff Sabatini said that CTS is now a legitimate competitor to any sub $50K sedan on the market. Other items in the article:   “Inside, the improvements are more revolutionary, starting with a wholesale upgrade of the materials and design. The crowning achievement is an elegant implementation of the navigation-system display….If anything can cause the German auto makers to feel shame for their maladroit efforts at integrating navigation screens, the CTS can. Cadillac has clearly set the industry standard.”   “Staking a place amid the crowded field of rear-wheel drive luxury sedans with sporting pretensions is a tricky business, but Cadillac has positioned the new CTS almost perfectly to maximize its marketability. Like the old CTS, the new one is roughly the size of the BMW 5-Series but priced closer to the smaller BMW 3-Series. It’s flashier than a Mercedes C-Class, more fun to drive than any Lexus and more comfortable than either BMW.”   “….what really impresses about the CTS is that it captures GM doing two things for which it historically has shown little capacity. The first is continuing to improve a product over successive generations; the second is paying attention to details. Both practices will be far more important to the company’s long-term success than the fleeting acclaim of this single model.” Replies to this message: fintail (Dec 21, 2007 8:36 am)
#3939 of 6098 Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [mrsyj] by sls002 Dec 21, 2007 (7:54 am)
Replying to: mrsyj (Dec 20, 2007 12:47 pm) My SRX's (a 2007) interior is OK, but for the money I think it could have been, and should have been, better. But it is a utility vehicle, so perhaps it is more or less what it ought to be. I would expect the STS interior to be much nicer. The CTS is probably OK.   As far as the CTS's handling goes, Road and Track does not think it is nearly in the 5-series class. Both the 3-series and 5-series can do 0.9 G's on a skidpad. Replies to this message: mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 10:34 am) sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 12:03 pm) mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 12:19 pm) and 2 more...

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