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#3928 of 6098 Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [habitat1] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:47 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 am) "I'd honestly like to see a shake up at GM and a seriously competitive offering to come out that would cause me to consider an American car the next time around. But between Mattel Toy chrome crazed styling and driving dynamics that are always playing catch up, I am not holding my breath. But, in deference to your resiliance, Rocky, I will give the best GM can serve up a test drive. "   Gm's vehicles are more competitive than ever. I'm not sure where they are playing catch up. The CTS plays 2nd fiddle to no car in this class. Its interior is superior to the C class and A4. Its also superior in terms of engines. The only area where Caddy was behind was in interiors and that is over now as evidenced by the SRX and CTS interiors. No need to wait until 2013 for Caddy to "catch up", they are already there. In fact from a performance standpoint they are ahead of Acura, Infiniti and Lexus. The V series cars put them on a level those brands havent reached yet in terms of credibility. Replies to this message: sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 7:54 am) mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 10:34 am) sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 12:03 pm) and 3 more...
#3929 of 6098 Re: the issue here [62vetteefp] by jkr2106 Dec 20, 2007 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 20, 2007 10:54 am) That would be interesting. I think it would make more sense for Cobalt to go to gamma as Epsilon is said to be big enough to support something like an Avalon, so I doubt it could be as small as the compact Cobalt. But what does that mean for the Volt. I know the concept was on delta. WAIT...Lutz said road testing would begin using Malibu Classics as mules and those are ep cars. That's also interesting considering the plant commitments in the new UAW contract, where Lordstown would stop producing the Cobalt/G5 and pick up gamma. Where did you hear/read this? Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 pm)
#3930 of 6098 Re: Road & Track comparison [trimaster] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: trimaster (Dec 19, 2007 9:22 pm) Cadillac doesnt have to fit its cars into the BMW/MB size/price categories. The CTS offers more space than the compact 3 or C300 for the same or less money. thats really all there is to it in the end. There isnt a law that says a $35k luxury car has to be a compact. The TL is midsized and has done VERY well competing with the compact European cars. The 3 and C are too small for people who plan on using the backseats of their sedans but people buy them for image reasons and because they are the cheapest cars at their respective brands. The CTS gives you more usable space and comparable handling for the same money. its a logical move. In the future a compact Caddy will slot below the CTS.
#3931 of 6098 Re: the issue here [jkr2106] by 62vetteefp Dec 20, 2007 (3:15 pm)
Replying to: jkr2106 (Dec 20, 2007 12:50 pm) Do not know. Googled it about a week ago and the info was very inconclusive on what the latest rumors are.
#3936 of 6098 Re: Road & Track comparison [mrsyj] by trimaster Dec 20, 2007 (8:24 pm)
Replying to: mrsyj (Dec 20, 2007 12:39 pm) If you are talking about sports sedans most German car owners do not respect Lexus.   Oh no. I wasn't talking about the sports cars. i was referring to the LS and how it has fared against the S and 7. The IS hasn't done well and the GS is worse. The ES is, well, I don't know WHAT the ES is, but it sells. It's not compared to any Bimmer or Benz IM...   the CTS is a better car than the A4 and C class right now. The 3 is sportier but not necessarily a better all around car. There is no objective reason to by a competing Audi or MB over the CTS.   Objective reason? Replies to this message: sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 7:55 am) mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 10:31 am) habitat1 (Dec 21, 2007 2:12 pm) sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 2:34 pm) mrsyj (Dec 25, 2007 6:53 am) trimaster (Dec 21, 2007 10:56 pm) laurasdada (Dec 22, 2007 10:40 am) and 42 more... mrsyj (Dec 25, 2007 6:59 am) and 22 more...
#3937 of 6098 Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [habitat1] by rockylee Dec 20, 2007 (9:54 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 am) Rocky, I will give the best GM can serve up a test drive.   I do want you to give the CTS-V a try habitat1   -Rocky

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