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#3925 of 6098 Re: the issue here [jkr2106] by 62vetteefp Dec 20, 2007 (10:54 am)
Replying to: jkr2106 (Dec 19, 2007 9:18 pm) I discussed this earlier. It is confusing but it looks like the Korean designed Gamma will be a very flexible platform. Cobalt may go Epsilon or Gamma. No more Delta. But it is all confusing and I am not sure the Product planners at GM know what they are going to do. Replies to this message: jkr2106 (Dec 20, 2007 12:50 pm) 62vetteefp (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 pm)
#3926 of 6098 Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [sls002] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:34 pm)
Replying to: sls002 (Dec 20, 2007 8:18 am) the CTS is on C&D 10BEST. In additon its handling is as good as any 5 series except the M5. The CTS is a 5 series sized car for 3 series money. It most definitely does not lack equipment compared to the 3 or 5 series and its a bargain compared to the 5 series.   Cadillac is very serious and they have been for the last 5 years or so. The CTS-V will continue to show they are serious about performance and design. The STS doesnt get a lot of credit but its handling, features and standard power make it a bargain compared to the 530 or E350. The E class starts at $50k compared ot $42k for the STS which is just as capable and more powerful and has standard features like push button start.
#3927 of 6098 Re: Road & Track comparison [trimaster] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:39 pm)
Replying to: trimaster (Dec 19, 2007 9:34 pm) "LOL Y does it have to be Poison Kool Aid? lol U gotta give credit where credit's due! If Caddy wants to woo german enthusiasts, they will have to produce a FANTASTIC car. Lexus did it, so maybe Caddy can do it also. "   If you are talking about sports sedans most German car owners do not respect Lexus. I would say at this point Cadillac has more credibility as a sports sedan maker than LExus. Lexus is just launching the ISF three years after Caddy launched the V series and no lexus will ever be available with a manual transmission. The base IS and GS have been roundly criticized as lacking in the sporting department. The current CTS, and to a lesser extent the old one, has been praised as a legit sports sedan, not just a RWD luxury car. LExus refuses to compromise when it comes to making Japanese Buicks and thus they wont go that extra mile to make a real sports sedan. The ISF might be the first example of a Lexus that gives up a little luxury in the name of sport. Actually the first IS was an example as well but it was a flop.   the CTS is a better car than the A4 and C class right now. The 3 is sportier but not necessarily a better all around car. There is no objective reason to by a competing Audi or MB over the CTS. Replies to this message: trimaster (Dec 20, 2007 8:24 pm) sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 7:55 am) mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 10:31 am) habitat1 (Dec 21, 2007 2:12 pm) and 2 more... trimaster (Dec 21, 2007 10:56 pm) and 66 more...
#3928 of 6098 Re: Cadillac V-Series........... [habitat1] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:47 pm)
Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 am) "I'd honestly like to see a shake up at GM and a seriously competitive offering to come out that would cause me to consider an American car the next time around. But between Mattel Toy chrome crazed styling and driving dynamics that are always playing catch up, I am not holding my breath. But, in deference to your resiliance, Rocky, I will give the best GM can serve up a test drive. "   Gm's vehicles are more competitive than ever. I'm not sure where they are playing catch up. The CTS plays 2nd fiddle to no car in this class. Its interior is superior to the C class and A4. Its also superior in terms of engines. The only area where Caddy was behind was in interiors and that is over now as evidenced by the SRX and CTS interiors. No need to wait until 2013 for Caddy to "catch up", they are already there. In fact from a performance standpoint they are ahead of Acura, Infiniti and Lexus. The V series cars put them on a level those brands havent reached yet in terms of credibility. Replies to this message: sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 7:54 am) mrsyj (Dec 21, 2007 10:34 am) sls002 (Dec 21, 2007 12:03 pm) and 3 more...
#3929 of 6098 Re: the issue here [62vetteefp] by jkr2106 Dec 20, 2007 (12:50 pm)
Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 20, 2007 10:54 am) That would be interesting. I think it would make more sense for Cobalt to go to gamma as Epsilon is said to be big enough to support something like an Avalon, so I doubt it could be as small as the compact Cobalt. But what does that mean for the Volt. I know the concept was on delta. WAIT...Lutz said road testing would begin using Malibu Classics as mules and those are ep cars. That's also interesting considering the plant commitments in the new UAW contract, where Lordstown would stop producing the Cobalt/G5 and pick up gamma. Where did you hear/read this? Replies to this message: 62vetteefp (Dec 20, 2007 3:15 pm)
#3930 of 6098 Re: Road & Track comparison [trimaster] by mrsyj Dec 20, 2007 (12:52 pm)
Replying to: trimaster (Dec 19, 2007 9:22 pm) Cadillac doesnt have to fit its cars into the BMW/MB size/price categories. The CTS offers more space than the compact 3 or C300 for the same or less money. thats really all there is to it in the end. There isnt a law that says a $35k luxury car has to be a compact. The TL is midsized and has done VERY well competing with the compact European cars. The 3 and C are too small for people who plan on using the backseats of their sedans but people buy them for image reasons and because they are the cheapest cars at their respective brands. The CTS gives you more usable space and comparable handling for the same money. its a logical move. In the future a compact Caddy will slot below the CTS.
#3931 of 6098 Re: the issue here [jkr2106] by 62vetteefp Dec 20, 2007 (3:15 pm)
Replying to: jkr2106 (Dec 20, 2007 12:50 pm) Do not know. Googled it about a week ago and the info was very inconclusive on what the latest rumors are.

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