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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 19, 2007 9:13 am) I have spent an average of 4-8 weeks per year in Germany for the past 25+ years and have driven the autobahn in everything from a rental Audi A3 to a Porsche 911 GT2. The design differences may seem subtle to some, but are very significant. The road does NOT go in a straight line for mile after monotonous mile. It is contoured to the land with slightly banked curves. The road surface itself is much smoother than US interstates, and constructed with a much thicker foundation, base and surface (i.e. meaning it holds up much better). Every time I return from an extended stay in Germany, I find myself checking my tires to make sure I don't have a flat - that's how much more vibration and road noise there is on the Interstates in my area (Pittsburgh). The Autobahn is to the Interstate system what a BMW 5 series is to a Buick Century. Yes, you can go 120 mph on each and in each, but the 5-series on the Autobahn at 120 is completely comfortable to an experienced driver. The same speed in a Buick on an American Interstate is something that Evil Knievel might not have found comfortable. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 19, 2007 3:52 am) OOPS  I meant to say premium zeta. To clarify, the plan that I believe is most accurate is that sigma will die because its too low volume and not flexible enough (which is another reason I don't think there will be an exclusive platform for the super-Caddy). The Zeta in the CTS would be a premium version of the G8/Commodore whereas the one in the super-Caddy would be a premium version of the statesman's architecture. Here's the only link I had saved: Soon after, expect the CTS family to get redesigned and migrate to a version of the Zeta platform sometime in 2012 as 2013 models. When this migration to Zeta happens, Sigma will essentially be dead come 2012, as GM will reduce the number of mid/large passenger car platforms down to the highly flexible Zeta platform, with Alpha taking up the mid/small range (no word on Kappa -- if it will elvove into Kappa II or use a smaller variant of Alpha). gminsidenews
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Replying to: jkr2106 (Dec 19, 2007 7:21 pm) GM's car platforms are being whittled away. Alpha Zeta Epsilon Gamma Y
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The Autobahn, like many of you said is waaaaay over-hyped !!!! I watched a video on the history channel about the autobahn and how congested with traffic it is. There are small pockets of unlimited speed limits but even those are now being discussed with adding speed limits to them.  As far as habitat, attacking Cadillac, lets just say my former 2002 Cadillac Seville STS with Magneride at 155 mph (elec. limited) felt very comfortable and solid on a Texas, Farm & Market Road about 4 summers ago and I did that more than once.  -Rocky |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 19, 2007 8:42 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 11, 2007 11:24 am) I see the logic, but then again, I don't see it. So who's their direct competition? Do they have direct competition? Will the car perform well enough to woo BMW drivers away? I'm so confused! 
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 12, 2007 1:08 pm) I don't think it's entirely right to say that BMW and MB owners won't switch to Caddy. I am pretty sure there are still open minded German owners who know s good product when they see one (oh shut up, I am not saying that most German owners are close minded bas***ds ). However, I'll admit that it'll probably be harder for the loyal German owners to switch since they have been under German kool-aid poisoning for a long time. LOL Y does it have to be Poison Kool Aid? lol U gotta give credit where credit's due! If Caddy wants to woo german enthusiasts, they will have to produce a FANTASTIC car. Lexus did it, so maybe Caddy can do it also. Criticizing the german car drivers won't do it. Build a better car and they MIGHT follow.
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Replying to: volvomax (Nov 12, 2007 2:34 pm) Yes, Cadillac may be more reliable, yes it is certainly cheaper. But, you have ALOT to learn about what motivates,or de-motiavtes car buyers. Esp luxury ones. Lux cars are bough primarily on image and cachet. Cadillac's image is well below the Germans. It just is. Let's not forget the driving experience itself. Some may think luxury cars are all about image, but many of them are a BLAST to drive in some shape, fashion or form. Other models just can't replicate that driving experience in many cases. |
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 15, 2007 2:20 pm) OK. I'm confused again. Is the CTS going up against the 3 series, the 5 series, the C Class or E Class? Is it in it's own niche? or is it going against everybody? 1 poster said it'd be a better comparo against the E class. The E class has a better interior than the C. Another poster said it has it's on niche. It's in between the 3 and 5: bigger than the 3, but smaller and cheaper than the 5. U guys are killin me...lol |
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