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Automotive News & Views Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?
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Replying to: lemko (Apr 11, 2007 8:41 am) LOL I was with U till U said you'd take your 1988 Park Ave over a Lexus...lol I'm not a lexus fan, but there's no comparison...lol If you say "Driving", people will say, "BMW" Yeah, driving to the dealership for every minor issue that crops up that's going to cost me $1K every time. Not to mention I'd rather be considered an old codger, pimp, or a mafioso than a yuppie geek If you were brave enough to say "Status", people will say "Mercedes" Yeah, maybe a W126 S-Class or older. A newer M-B just says a rich fool with a lot of money or a middle-class loser who's frontin' U have to drive a Bimmer or Benz to understand why people still buy them even though they have/had reliabilty problems. I have an old Bimmer and that car drives so good it's scary. The W140 Mercedes is still an incredible car even though it's expensive to maintain. |
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Dec 18, 2007 4:35 am) I've heard the same about Sigma (and even that the CTS will shift to a premium sigma, albeit shorter than a Cadillac S-class/7-series) and also agree about a premium Zeta. At this point, though, I feel like regardless of the financials, GM should just make this car. For me it's kind of like the Volt: the money lost on each unit sold is at least partially reimbursed by the image it lends to the rest of the brand. IMO, the 3-series is successful, in part, because it allows people of more reasonable means to be associated with the likes of the 7-series. With no full-size uber lux sedan to sit atop Cadillac, what would entice buyers into the brand? Obviously, the CTS sells well, but I just feel like having a large sedan with more exclusivity will do wonders for the brand and even help bolster CTS and future BTS(?) sales.
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Replying to: steve_ (Apr 17, 2007 10:13 am) Wow. So I'm not the only one... |
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Replying to: bigman35 (Apr 24, 2007 8:51 am) Infiniti??? How do U figure that? It certainly isn't the G37. It lost a recent head to head comparo with the BMW 335i. http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=121462/pageNumber=5 |
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Replying to: aldw (Dec 18, 2007 6:33 pm) |
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Replying to: jkr2106 (Dec 18, 2007 9:21 pm) I really doubt that GM would start a new architecture just for a large, premium Cadillac. Now they would revise/combine ones they have and are doing that.
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Cadillac may have been the US standard for something. But I happened to see a great History Channel program last night on the Autobahn - its conception, design, construction and history, dating back to when the first 3,000 kms were constructed in the 1930's At one point, it was discussed why, with all of our relatively large open spaces between cities, the US doesn't have a high speed Autobahn style system? The answer, quite simply, was that our automobiles were far inferior to safely handling high speeds than German cars. The narrator made specific mention of Cadillac as NEVER having the high speed handling, safety or other engineering features of everything from Mercedes, BMW, Audi and even VW. The original VW Beetle, produced in the 1040's was a more stable and capable car at Autobahn speeds than any American made car of its time. So, when you are cruising 300 miles on the highway and unhappy that it takes you 5-6 hours instead of 2 1/2, send your thank you note to GM/Cadillac. |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 19, 2007 4:04 am)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Dec 19, 2007 4:04 am) How about all the other cars that were driven in Deutschland? Were all the cars Mercedes? BMWs? What did ordinary folk drive? How were they for traveling long distances on varying highways and city streets as we had in the US in the 60s and 70s? I think we all know the answer to that. The US car was suitable for driving all those highways. Ever take a trip in a VW beetle in the 60s and 70s? Drive from Indiana to Florida in the 60s? |
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