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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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What is this discussion about? Cadillac Escalade, Cadillac XLR, Cadillac STS, Automotive News


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Re: Road & Track comparison [rockylee] by lemko
Nov 16, 2007 (6:06 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 15, 2007 2:20 pm)

Not to discourage you, but I once applied for a sales position at a Cadillac dealer and they wanted somebody with at least 15 years experience in the field. Of course, that was almost 20 years ago. Things may have since then changed .
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Re: Any News......... [rockylee] by bumpy
Nov 16, 2007 (7:31 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 15, 2007 10:26 pm)

Supposedly it's getting a "LSA" 6.2L supercharged mill, 525ish horsepower with an optional paddle-shifter automatic.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [lemko] by bumpy
Nov 16, 2007 (7:42 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 16, 2007 6:06 am)

Things may have since then changed
 
Yeah. Those Cadillac salesmen with long experience have all passed on along with their clientele.
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Re: sls002 [rockylee] by sls002
Nov 16, 2007 (8:06 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 15, 2007 2:43 pm)

What does that mean? The Corvette does not offer the magnetic ride with the optional performance package either. I think magnetic ride is offered to make a variable suspension to optimize the ride and handling. One can get somewhat better handling (but not the best handling) without getting a harder ride. On some roads (for example washboard) magnetic ride would probably be very good. My SRX does not have a soft ride (like my 2002 SLS did), but it is not harsh either. I like the handling and I don't need to drive on washboards.
 
Cadillac developed the computer control suspension for the FWD STS in an effort to make the STS a serious sports sedan. The magnetic shocks were developed in this failed project. The sigma platform was developed to make a serious sports sedan for Cadillac. The CTS does not use the MRC at all. The STS uses it only on the base STS performance model to probably keep the suspension soft enough for customers, but to get the handling up to the standards that the various magazines expect sports sedans to have. I think that the computer controled suspensions have limits to their ability to really adjust for bumps in the road. A manually adjustable suspension is probably best, but it would not do to allow a Cadillac owner to need to have to think too much.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [rockylee] by m1miata
Nov 16, 2007 (1:17 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 15, 2007 10:04 pm)

Yes it does, to answer your question of does my car turn me on. At least as much as did the used CTS cars I drove, and it cost me far less. I bought the Accord SE, which has the adjustable steering column, and much more standard features, with better interior quality than does the CTS, and it was $22.5K to purchase. Great handling and good gas mileage too. I do still like the CTS, and it does stand out looks wise. Overall performance is pretty much equal to the Accord however. I think I got a Cadillac for two thirds the cost. I noticed the new one is $34K+ which to me seems too pricey. This is getting into the price range of a BMW3.
 
I think a smaller CTS, with the same engine, and smoother front, would be nice for say $28K. Something about the BMW3 size.
-Loren
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Re: Road & Track comparison [volvomax] by pmerk28
Nov 16, 2007 (4:35 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Nov 15, 2007 2:07 pm)

ELadies and Gentlemen, this is why European cars and SUV's are better.
They are engineered for things that most drivers won't use them for.
An Escalade can barely move in a straight line.
It's steering,suspension and brakes are not capable for prolonged hard use.
You could run an X5 around the Ring without it even breathing hard.
that level of engineering does shine thru even in everyday use.

 
European cars are designed for European roads which are narrow and twisty. Try being the passenger in an X5 for more than 30 mins. The noise and hard ride grows tiring very quickly.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [lemko] by louiswei
Nov 19, 2007 (8:57 am)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 16, 2007 6:03 am)

Saw a brand new black '08 CTS 3.6 (still had the dealer's tag on) broken down on Sepulveda Blvd at El Segundo yesterday around 12 pm (11/18). I thought it was a STS at first but was really surprised when I realized that it was a '08 CTS.
 
Not exactly a good image for Caddy huh? I sure feel for the owner though...
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Re: Road & Track comparison [louiswei] by imidazol97
Nov 19, 2007 (8:59 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 19, 2007 8:57 am)

Probably out of gas.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [imidazol97] by louiswei
Nov 19, 2007 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 19, 2007 8:59 am)

He was broken down on the left most lane (3 lane total each direction). I figured if he was out of gas he'd probably at least noticed it a bit earlier and tried to steer it to the shoulder.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [louiswei] by british_rover
Nov 19, 2007 (9:02 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Nov 19, 2007 8:57 am)

Maybe it had a flat tire?

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