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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Road & Track comparison [62vetteefp] by louiswei
Nov 15, 2007 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 15, 2007 10:38 am)

Have to give credit when credit is due, the new Esclade does seem like a winner from almost every aspect.
 
My friend rented a new Esclade just not long ago and he couldn't stop praising about how comfortable does it ride and drive. The only beef he has against it is the cheap looking plastics all around.
 
Oh, and this is coming from a guy who owned Mistu 2000GT, 330ci and currently driving a Porsche Boxster S.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [62vetteefp] by british_rover
Nov 15, 2007 (10:46 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 15, 2007 10:38 am)

Once again the most popular thing isn't always the best. In fact the most popular thing is usually not the best.
 
Also there are plenty of people who don't want to drive a car that 51,999 other people every year buy. There is a subset of the populace that likes exclusivity and will pay for it.
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. by anythngbutgm
Nov 15, 2007 (11:05 am)
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I don't think the gangbanger crowd will ever dwindle enough for the Escalade to lose its popularity. And the NBA certainly isn't going anywhere (at least I hope not, with the Celts 7-0 and all, best start since like 1972 ).
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Re: Road & Track comparison [british_rover] by 62vetteefp
Nov 15, 2007 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: british_rover (Nov 15, 2007 10:46 am)

Once again the most popular thing isn't always the best. In fact the most popular thing is usually not the best.
 
Love it. I guess if you have to cut it down for something it might as well be because it is popular.
 
Hey, they can always buy the GL or M class SUV's for about the same price ($65k) and be in the low volume exclusive club.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [62vetteefp] by volvomax
Nov 15, 2007 (2:07 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Nov 15, 2007 10:38 am)


Not sure what american will ever want to take his SUV around the Nurburgring. Not what SUV's are for.

 
Ladies and Gentlemen, this is why European cars and SUV's are better.
They are engineered for things that most drivers won't use them for.
An Escalade can barely move in a straight line.
It's steering,suspension and brakes are not capable for prolonged hard use.
You could run an X5 around the Ring without it even breathing hard.
that level of engineering does shine thru even in everyday use.
 
Someone who truly understands how well European cars are engineered and built would never touch an Escalade or other Caddy.
Cadillac has nothing to offer these people,just a cheaper, less well engineered car.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [volvomax] by rockylee
Nov 15, 2007 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: volvomax (Nov 15, 2007 9:59 am)

Uh, the Germans.
Look at the fit/finish of a Benz, Bimmer, Audi.
Look at the quality of the plastics,materials.

 
Well the C-Class and 3 series interiors look spartan compared to the CTS. I do not know what you are talking about volvomax. Hell the S80's interior's you sell make the interiors of the Germans look like Kia Rio's.
 
I see you already have your salespersons hat on.
Just because Caddy gives more of them away doesn't make it the best.
No way an Escalade would ever make it around the Nurburgring.
It's ponderous with a capital

 
I agree with 62' The Escalade, is rumored to come out with a performance version but it will not handle like a sports carand is not intended to. I think Delphi's Magneride, will add a little zest to it's flavor though.
 
-Rocky
 
P.S. I'd love to sell Cadillac's. I'm going to see if my trainer can arrange a interview to do just that.
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Re: sls002 [sls002] by rockylee
Nov 15, 2007 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 15, 2007 8:11 am)

Well Delphi, is dabbling with advanced versions of it's MRC system.
 
-Rocky
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Re: Road & Track comparison [rockylee] by m1miata
Nov 15, 2007 (8:21 pm)
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Replying to: rockylee (Nov 15, 2007 12:54 am)

hi Rocky,
I assume you prefer the new CTS too! Of course the interior is much more classy, but what about that busy looking exterior, with all the new bling to the front grill? It is all a bit much. First generation will perhaps always be the best ever design, and finest example of Art & Science design. The STS as a stretched CTS is just a waste of money to me. For all that dough there are plenty of good alternatives, I would think. And style wise, it is just a slightly less attractive CTS. I also prefer the old size of the CTS, which was more than large enough. A good, smaller car, really fits our little city with old narrow streets and all those parking spaces, a skosh small. For this kid, there is nothing exciting or World standard about the new line of Cadillac - sorry. I did see the CTS-V race car on the track a few years ago, and it was pretty awesome. But that is about where awesome ends. The crossover SUV they have looks pretty good, so that is a, yeah, not bad rating.
 
Rocky, if you become a car salesman some day, be sure to memorize all the data on the cars. Seems like no salespeople these days know anything about the cars at all -- such a pity. If salespeople could only realize one other element of work, as in who they work for, as in me, the customer, then they pretty much got it down. Know product and work for the customer to get them into the best car. - Loren
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Re: Road & Track comparison [m1miata] by rockylee
Nov 15, 2007 (10:04 pm)
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Replying to: m1miata (Nov 15, 2007 8:21 pm)

Loren,
 
I have learned so much from people like you. My edmunds family are my greatest teachers and I have each and every one of you to thank !!!!!
 
Edmunds, has expanded my product knowledge and knowledge of the auto industry to heights I never thought were possible. Yes while I'm a expert in General Motors, it doesn't hurt to know stuff about other manufactors for the used car lot I might sell from also assuming I get a concrete job offer soon.
 
The professional training I went through taught me the small details that most car salesman mistakenly over look or are just plain to lazy to learn.
 
So I give credit to where it is due (y'all) and my 13K+ posts in just 2 years which might be a edmunds record might not be such a waste of time after all.
 
-Rocky
 
P.S. Loren, you have some crazy eyes to think theold Art & Science CTS is better design than what we have today.
 
P.S.S. "When you turn your car on does it return the favor ??? "
 
Kate Cadillac Pub
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VekFRTiLQqw&feature=related
 
I do not know who turns me on more ????
 
-Rocky

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