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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [sls002] by louiswei
Oct 15, 2007 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 15, 2007 8:11 am)

Yeah, but it doesn't matter because 335i is still better than 330i because it's faster and more expensive. That's all the trophy wives need to know.
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Road & Track comparison by sls002
Nov 10, 2007 (10:46 am)
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R&T's latest edition has a comparison test of the CTS and Infinity G35. There is a sidebar explaining why they did not include a BMW 535 as planned. The CTS was priced nearly $20,000 less than the 535. The 535 had a nicer interior for the money, was the best performer for the extra money, and had the best ride/handling too. For the money, the CTS is a lot of car though.
 
R&T rated the G35 better than the CTS in the comparison. The G35's smaller size and less weight gave it an edge in performance and handling.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [sls002] by jkr2106
Nov 10, 2007 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 10, 2007 10:46 am)

hmm...too big to beat the Infiniti G35...too cheap to beat the BMW 535...wonder what that means...
 
I know! Bring on the smaller BTS!!! and push the CTS up about $15-17K!!!
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It's that time again! by lemko
Nov 11, 2007 (9:05 am)
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I've got to go to the Cadillac dealer for an oil change for my Seville STS! Hope I don't give into temptation when I see those new CTS's!
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Re: Road & Track comparison [jkr2106] by sls002
Nov 11, 2007 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: jkr2106 (Nov 10, 2007 4:58 pm)

I think it means that the CTS is in a class by its self. This is not a bad thing, and with the 2008 upgrades, the CTS is now worth considering if the 3-series class seems too small, but the 5-series is way too expensive.
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Re: It's that time again! [lemko] by jkr2106
Nov 11, 2007 (1:20 pm)
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Replying to: lemko (Nov 11, 2007 9:05 am)

go ahead...give in...you know you want to...
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Re: Road & Track comparison [sls002] by jkr2106
Nov 11, 2007 (1:23 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 11, 2007 11:24 am)

I get what you're saying. Actually, my Dad will be in the market in about a year and those are his reasons. So, its good for select consumers, but I think Cadillac would benefit from a more traditional product structure...at least until they are on top of the game again (they can't come in changing rules as a rookie; wait for them to be the team captain, then they'll call the plays).
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Re: Road & Track comparison [jkr2106] by sls002
Nov 12, 2007 (8:38 am)
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Replying to: jkr2106 (Nov 11, 2007 1:23 pm)

Cadillac will do best to market cars that are not direct competition with BMW or Mercedes. If Cadillac can build something different, but American, then it should sell. Cadillac will not be able to sell something very expensive. The XLR does not sell like the Mercedes SL's.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [sls002] by 62vetteefp
Nov 12, 2007 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 12, 2007 8:38 am)

Cadillac will do best to market cars that are not direct competition with BMW or Mercedes. If Cadillac can build something different, but American, then it should sell. Cadillac will not be able to sell something very expensive.
 
OK but they have to offer something to bring those BMW or Mercedes buyers over to Cadillac and keep the buyers they have. Does them little good to only sell to their current buyers.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [sls002] by jkr2106
Nov 12, 2007 (10:17 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 12, 2007 8:38 am)

I love GM/Cadillac as much as the next guy, but the interior on the XLR is sub-standard, and personally, I don't think its a looker on the outside either. Who wouldn't rather have a vette? So, for me at least, the XLR is not indicative of Cadillac's capabilities as a tier one luxury make.

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