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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [louiswei] by displacedtexan
Oct 12, 2007 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 04, 2007 9:13 am)

Like I said, BMW has been pretty confusing with its model nomenclatures lately.
 
Not nearly as bad as Lincoln, though.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [displacedtexan] by 62vetteefp
Oct 13, 2007 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Oct 12, 2007 3:21 pm)

Like I said, BMW has been pretty confusing with its model nomenclatures lately.
  
Not nearly as bad as Lincoln, though

 
Actually it is pretty easy at Lincoln. The models are all MK_. BMW uses numbers that on one side are easy 1,3,5,7 but on the other nonsensical 28, 35 etc.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [62vetteefp] by sls002
Oct 13, 2007 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Oct 13, 2007 10:12 am)

The problem with BMW's numbers are that they change from year to year. The basic problem is that they are trying to identify the engine in the model name, but after a few engine changes, one has to be a BMW expert to really know what any of it means.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [sls002] by louiswei
Oct 15, 2007 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 13, 2007 3:49 pm)

That's really not a problem for BMW, all the general buying public (except car enthusiasts) has to know is:
 
335i > 328i
550i > 535i > 528i
760i > 750i
 
Usually trophy wives don't care what's under the hood...
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [louiswei] by sls002
Oct 15, 2007 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 15, 2007 7:40 am)

Generally speaking the larger the second and third digits are, the higher the model is in the pecking order. The problem is that the second and third digits vary from year to year, so the top of line model this year is a 335, but not too long ago it was a 330. This is what confuses one. The only difference between a 330 and a 335 is the turbo charger. Well, actually the turbo engine is all new, but both models were/are top of the line.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [sls002] by louiswei
Oct 15, 2007 (8:35 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 15, 2007 8:11 am)

Yeah, but it doesn't matter because 335i is still better than 330i because it's faster and more expensive. That's all the trophy wives need to know.
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Road & Track comparison by sls002
Nov 10, 2007 (10:46 am)
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R&T's latest edition has a comparison test of the CTS and Infinity G35. There is a sidebar explaining why they did not include a BMW 535 as planned. The CTS was priced nearly $20,000 less than the 535. The 535 had a nicer interior for the money, was the best performer for the extra money, and had the best ride/handling too. For the money, the CTS is a lot of car though.
 
R&T rated the G35 better than the CTS in the comparison. The G35's smaller size and less weight gave it an edge in performance and handling.
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Re: Road & Track comparison [sls002] by jkr2106
Nov 10, 2007 (4:58 pm)
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Replying to: sls002 (Nov 10, 2007 10:46 am)

hmm...too big to beat the Infiniti G35...too cheap to beat the BMW 535...wonder what that means...
 
I know! Bring on the smaller BTS!!! and push the CTS up about $15-17K!!!
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It's that time again! by lemko
Nov 11, 2007 (9:05 am)
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I've got to go to the Cadillac dealer for an oil change for my Seville STS! Hope I don't give into temptation when I see those new CTS's!
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Re: Road & Track comparison [jkr2106] by sls002
Nov 11, 2007 (11:24 am)
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Replying to: jkr2106 (Nov 10, 2007 4:58 pm)

I think it means that the CTS is in a class by its self. This is not a bad thing, and with the 2008 upgrades, the CTS is now worth considering if the 3-series class seems too small, but the 5-series is way too expensive.

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