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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [sls002] by dino001
Oct 04, 2007 (9:11 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 04, 2007 6:25 am)

The origin of those numbers are in displacement, but BMW departed from it long time ago. They shuffle those numbers back and forth, which allows them to have a new name every so often without big changes in the actual car. This way one could quickly distinguish model years on the street - just by looking at the badge.
 
For example, when new 3-series came along, 325 and 330 were designations used for both 3.0 engines: one was about 180-190 hp, another 220-230 hp. My guess is that 325 was selected to show that the performance in 325 was similar to previous 325 with 2.5 engine. Then they introduced the 3.0 turbo and tuned the NA engine to have performance between 325 and 330 version. The new cars had then performance that would be "natural" to 2.8 and 3.5 engines, hence the names: 328 and 335.
 
I completely made it up, but I stick to it
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [dino001] by louiswei
Oct 04, 2007 (9:13 am)
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Replying to: dino001 (Oct 04, 2007 9:11 am)

Like I said, BMW has been pretty confusing with its model nomenclatures lately.
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CTS by imidazol97
Oct 10, 2007 (11:47 am)
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The 2008 CTS is sure on the road to becoming a standard> it"s a striking car!
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Re: CTS [imidazol97] by rockylee
Oct 11, 2007 (4:04 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 10, 2007 11:47 am)

That'swhy the "V" will be even more exciting to see.
 
-Rocky
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Re: CTS [rockylee] by lemko
Oct 12, 2007 (4:29 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Oct 11, 2007 4:04 pm)

Shoot, I saw a regular 2008 CTS from a distance and I was afraid to approach it as I might fall in love. The V-Series will be irresistable. The last thing I need now is a car payment as I'm trying to fix up my place.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [louiswei] by displacedtexan
Oct 12, 2007 (3:21 pm)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 04, 2007 9:13 am)

Like I said, BMW has been pretty confusing with its model nomenclatures lately.
 
Not nearly as bad as Lincoln, though.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [displacedtexan] by 62vetteefp
Oct 13, 2007 (10:12 am)
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Replying to: displacedtexan (Oct 12, 2007 3:21 pm)

Like I said, BMW has been pretty confusing with its model nomenclatures lately.
  
Not nearly as bad as Lincoln, though

 
Actually it is pretty easy at Lincoln. The models are all MK_. BMW uses numbers that on one side are easy 1,3,5,7 but on the other nonsensical 28, 35 etc.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [62vetteefp] by sls002
Oct 13, 2007 (3:49 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Oct 13, 2007 10:12 am)

The problem with BMW's numbers are that they change from year to year. The basic problem is that they are trying to identify the engine in the model name, but after a few engine changes, one has to be a BMW expert to really know what any of it means.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [sls002] by louiswei
Oct 15, 2007 (7:40 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Oct 13, 2007 3:49 pm)

That's really not a problem for BMW, all the general buying public (except car enthusiasts) has to know is:
 
335i > 328i
550i > 535i > 528i
760i > 750i
 
Usually trophy wives don't care what's under the hood...
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [louiswei] by sls002
Oct 15, 2007 (8:11 am)
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Replying to: louiswei (Oct 15, 2007 7:40 am)

Generally speaking the larger the second and third digits are, the higher the model is in the pecking order. The problem is that the second and third digits vary from year to year, so the top of line model this year is a 335, but not too long ago it was a 330. This is what confuses one. The only difference between a 330 and a 335 is the turbo charger. Well, actually the turbo engine is all new, but both models were/are top of the line.

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