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Can GM make Cadillac the standard of the world Again?

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Re: Naah [bumpy] by rockylee
Sep 28, 2007 (6:32 am)
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Replying to: bumpy (Sep 28, 2007 6:19 am)

They do have a "OFF" button for all those nannies.
 
-rockylee
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Re: Naah [rockylee] by british_rover
Sep 28, 2007 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: rockylee (Sep 28, 2007 6:32 am)

The off button doesn't really shut everything off in most of those vehicles but just changes the limits.
 
Sometimes a certain sequence of presses to the button will shut of the stability and traction control sometimes now. Volvo did that on their "R" models. If you pressed the DTSC button a certain number of times in so many seconds it would completely shut off the system.
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Re: CTS vs. BMW?? [62vetteefp] by sls002
Sep 28, 2007 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Sep 27, 2007 10:22 am)

Without knowing the original source, the information is not worth much, and a lot of your quotes are very long. I consider the car magazines like Automobile, Road & Track and Car & Driver to be good sources. Newspaper reporters/critics/whatever are not as good, but some of them have been doing it for a while, and do have some experience.
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Re: Naah [british_rover] by sls002
Sep 28, 2007 (8:00 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 28, 2007 6:34 am)

My SRX has an on/off button for the traction control. The owners manual says that if I hold that button down for more than 5 seconds, the stability control will shut down too. I have yet to activate either the traction system or stability control.
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Re: Naah [sls002] by british_rover
Sep 28, 2007 (8:04 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Sep 28, 2007 8:00 am)

Probably hard to do in that kind of car in AWD on dry pavement.
 
If I floor one of our rovers from a dead stop going into a turn I might activate the traction/stability control but probably not. The cars are just to heavy and with the AWD it is hard to break traction.
 
I can't shut off stability or traction control in the rovers either because those systems tie into the Active Roll Mitigation and Roll Stability Control. Plus the stability control in those vehicles is adjustable depending on the road surface using terrain response and terrain sensing software.
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Re: Naah [british_rover] by sls002
Sep 28, 2007 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: british_rover (Sep 28, 2007 8:04 am)

I really have not tried to spin the tires, and do not plan to on dry pavement. I have accelerated hard from a standstill. I am looking forward to getting some snow to drive in though.
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From Edmunds.com- by 62vetteefp
Sep 28, 2007 (11:02 am)
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http://www.edmunds.com/apps/vdpcontainers/do/vdp/articleId=122751/pageNumber=1
 
From the moment he returned from testing an early example of the 2008 Cadillac CTS at the Nürburgring's Nordschleife racetrack in Germany, our Dan Edmunds couldn't stop talking about his experience. "This thing is fun," he said. "The CTS lives up to everything you expect from a car developed at the Nürburgring." He was so enthusiastic, we wondered if he had spent too much time conducting field research into the Vorläufiges Deutsches Biergesetz (provisional German beer law) to properly judge the new CTS's attributes.
  
The CTS's new interior treatment has a visual warmth, and interiors from BMW and Mercedes seem cold and austere in comparison, while a Lexus seems antiseptic. The Cadillac's all-new front seats are reasonably comfortable, but some of us begged for more thigh support.
Standard for the World
This is the best Cadillac in 40 years. Sure, the direct-injection V6 is only adequate, but it's a great start. Even with the firmest FE-3 suspension package, the CTS proves GM knows how to walk the line between a compliant ride and ultimate handling.
  
The exterior styling may only be an evolution of the original CTS, but it's far more successful. It has a bolder stance and chic presence the previous car never did, even in CTS-V form. Meanwhile, the interior and mind-blowing infotainment system remind us of the time when Cadillac was called "The Standard of the World."
  
There's a flip side to the affirmation. The curse is that now that we've seen and experienced the exceptional 2008 Cadillac CTS, there can be no more excuses for mediocre vehicles from GM.
  
OK, General Motors, you've proved it once. Now the biggest challenge will be to do it again and again. That's how reputations are made.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [rayainsw] by hondacbr1k
Oct 02, 2007 (8:41 am)
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Replying to: rayainsw (Sep 21, 2007 9:43 am)

Everyone get's caught up on these acceleration numbers...300HP for the street is overkill. In the suburbs where I live it is next to impossible to use all of the power of a CTS or a BMW without risk of an accident or ticket or both. It's sad but that's the way it is. And the demographic that can afford to buy these cars typically can't afford to lose their license or worse. It is fun to have the power but using it all is another story. We should not all run out and buy 4 cylinder hybrids but this needs to kept in perspective.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [hondacbr1k] by bumpy
Oct 02, 2007 (9:17 am)
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Replying to: hondacbr1k (Oct 02, 2007 8:41 am)

300HP for the street is overkill
 
Not in a 2-ton car, unfortunately.
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Re: 3.6 performance Re: V8 ? Re: CTS marketing [bumpy] by rockylee
Oct 02, 2007 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: bumpy (Oct 02, 2007 9:17 am)

Well it does do 0-60 in the 5.7-5.8 range with a stick. I "thought" I read somewhere that somebody got a 5.4 0-60 time with a stick. Edmunds, did it in 6.5 with a automatic which is by far the slowest time I've read.
 
Perhaps they had a couple tons of cement bags in the trunk so the number wouldn't approach the foreign cars they bias.
 
-Rocky

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